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От   : Björn Felten                     2:203/2            20 Jun 16 05:15:06
Кому : Michiel van der Vlist                               20 Jun 16 05:15:06
Тема : Brexit
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MvdV> No, it is false logic. What they forget is that being in the EU gives a
MvdV> big boost to the economy, so that they have much more money to spend.
MvdV> When they leave, they will no longer be net contributors, but the
MvdV> economy will decline and the bottom line will be that they have less
MvdV> money to spend. What matters is not how much one contributes to the EU,
MvdV> but how much will be left to spend after making the membership
MvdV> contribution.

   Within certain limits.

MvdV> I bet you are a net contributor to the Swedish State, My estimate is
MvdV> that you pay more taxes than what you receive on dole, subsidies and
MvdV> whatever money from the state.

   That's a completely different matter. That's on a personal level, not like e.g. Greece that has consistently mistreated their economy to such a degree that they now depend on EU money not to go bankrupt.

BF>> and I think it's unfair to call them the bad boy in our union.

BF>> As Ward and I often have agreed upon, a North European Union would
BF>> benefit us tremendously.

MvdV> Perhaps. But within that "New Union" there would still be net
MvdV> contributors and net receivers. Or "leeches" in your words. What will be
MvdV> the next step? Should we do another round and kick out the new "leeches"?

   Once again, there are limits IMHO. When politicians in certain states use the common economy to pay for their own promises to their voters with money from the union, they don't deserve to be members. I don't see that happening in any of the proposed NEU member states.



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