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От   : David Rance                      2:203/2            20 Jul 16 18:45:54
Кому : Richard Menedetter                                  20 Jul 16 18:45:54
Тема : Brexit
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:14:46 Richard Menedetter -> David Rance wrote:

RM> 13 Jul 2016 15:13, from David Rance -> Richard Menedetter:

RM>>> By the greater picture.
RM>>> By the fact that it is a peace project, by the fact that a single
RM>>> country can hardly stand in todays globalized world.
DR>> You are never going to get the people in poverty to see that picture
DR>> when they don't have a job or anywhere to live.

RM> To be honest ... I really do think that the percentage of homeless
RM> people that participated in the referendum was quit small.

You don't have to be homeless in order to be aware of the problem and vote accordingly.

DR>> And why? Because we cannot stem the flow of migrants to this country

RM> That is a very simplistic view ...

Simplistic means "affectedly simple". My comment was not affectedly simple but based on what I hear and read.  You are not here. I am writing here to answer the simplistic comments.

Incidentally, where do you live? I have been assuming you are Austrian.

RM> I had the impression that the leave side has the most simplistic
RM> answers in the world.

In order to reduce a referendum to a yes/no choice it has had to be simplistic. And because it is simplistic there has been room for erroneous statements to have been made on both sides.

RM>>> "We send the EU 350 million pounds a week - let's fund our NHS
RM>>> instead"
DR>> Sorry, that doesn't answer my question. When have we "meandered
DR>> around" in the past?

RM> Yes it does answer the question.
RM> Before the referendum the above quote.
RM> Hours after it, it looks completely different.

RM> That is what I mean with meandering ... maybe not the correct word, I
RM> am no native speaeker.

It probably wasn't. By using "meandering" I interpreted that as the British have been vacillating on this question for years. Ok, so some people have, but not the whole nation.

RM>>> But it was the reason why many people voted the way they did.
DR>> No, it wasn't. It was to do with immigration.

RM> I disagree ... but good luck to


DR>> The Brexit argument was that, if we leave, then we could control the
DR>> numbers whereas, because of the EU's policy of free movement, we can't
DR>> do that.

RM> That is correct.

RM> But it is not "only immigration" it is a complete package.

If the question of immigration had not been so prominent, I can assure you that, even though there were other complaints, we would not have voted for Brexit.

RM> If you exit the free movement, you also exit all other freedoms.
RM> That was not mentioned in the necessary depth.

I agree!

David (writing from France)

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