= Сообщение: 4140 из 12549 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : David Rance 2:203/2 25 Jul 16 10:42:48 Кому : Henri Derksen 25 Jul 16 10:42:48 Тема : Brexit FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:203/2+5795d100 На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/1208.1+693463f3 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP866 ================================== Ответ: area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:2448/44+5796ff56 ============================================================================== On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 19:03:12 Henri Derksen -> David Rance wrote:
HD> Sat. 16 Jul 2016, 11:59:52, David Rance wrote to Henri Derksen:
HD>> One of the problems is that in England everyone can get work paid black, HD>> because it is not necessary to show your pasport to your employer.
DR>> Not everyone in the UK has a passport.
HD> Neither do we have here, an IDCard will also do for Europe only. HD> Since the IDCard is free of fingerprints, but the passport still needs them, HD> I have choosen for the IDCard, the same as Michiel.
Let me be more detailed. Not everyone in the UK has a passport. No-one has an ID card because ID cards don't exist. We've never had ID cards and the last time this came up in parliament it was heavily defeated.
DR>> The illegal immigrants don't have an NI number but they can still get DR>> work by being employed by "taskmasters" or "gangmasters" who don't DR>> report anything illegal to the authorities. And so they pay the DR>> immigrants very little and can get away with it. The immigrants are DR>> hired in gangs, housed (usually) in appalling conditions and taken by DR>> bus to a place of work. Usually this work is on farms gathering DR>> vegetables and fruit.
HD> Here this happened too, but luckily all kind of employers and jobs are HD> controlled.
So they are in the UK, but "illegal" means that the authorities either don't know about them or, if they do, they are not able to do anything about it through lack of resources.
David
-- David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK