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От   : Björn Felten                     2:203/2            13 Sep 16 17:09:19
Кому : Robert Bashe                                        13 Sep 16 17:09:19
Тема : Today's disgusting politions
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RB> And you to ignore one: with certain exceptions, the populations affected
RB> by all this were never asked what _they_ wanted. Everything was decided
RB> by politicians, who may have been elected, but certainly were not
RB> authorized to make such radical decisions as they did over their
RB> consistuency's heads.

RB> You may say "then why weren't the governments voted out?". But to vote a
RB> government out, you have to have an alternative. And there was none in
RB> the countries that did not allow their citizens a say in matters. Not
RB> any more than there is now in Germany, where Ms. Merkel got rid of any
RB> possible competition as soon as she was elected. Take your choice, the
RB> devil or Beelzebub. And those most affected have no say in the matter,
RB> except - as we have seen - in the UK.

RB> I don't know what makes the politicians madder: the vote fpr Brexit or
RB> the fact that some of their political buddies allowed their population
RB> to have a say in the matter. There's a lot of hate speech against the
RB> British in political circles in Germany. And plenty of politicians
RB> swearing "revenge". The population here is a good deal less angry, many
RB> wishing that they had the same rights as the British gave their population.

RB> Ever hear of the AfD (Alternative fuer Deutschland)? It's an up and
RB> coming party that's being tarred by the "established parties" as
RB> rightest. But the real reason for the invective is plain fear of
RB> competition, this time from the conservative side of the political
RB> spectrum. The competition from the left (leading to the party Die Linke)
RB> was also tumultous, but hardly as vindictive, as Germans naturally tend
RB> to prefer leftist parties - possibly in part due to their history.

RB> Anyway, we have a drift from the political center to the right and left,
RB> accompanied by ever lower election participation. And the politicians,
RB> instead of paying attention to the wishes and fears of their
RB> constituents, simply wring their hands and continue doing what they please.

   WOW! That was pretty damn much the best I have read for years.

   Needless to say I'm in 100% agreement with you on everything above.



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