= Сообщение: 5323 из 12556 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : David Rance 2:203/2 29 Aug 17 10:34:31 Кому : Robert Bashe 29 Aug 17 10:34:31 Тема : Swedish meatballs ... FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:203/2+59a52716 На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:2448/44+59a517ae = Кодировка сообщения определена как: ASCII ================================== Ответ: area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:2448/44+59a6a9cd ============================================================================== On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 09:26:34 Robert Bashe -> Michiel van der Vlist wrote:
RB> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to David Rance on Monday August 28 2017 at 20:45:
DR>>> Was a "juf" an unqualified teacher?
MV>> "Juf" is short for "juffrouw" which means "miss". So a female teacher.
RB> Sounds like it was derived from the German "Jungfrau", which originally RB> meant "virgin" but meanwhile is applied to all underage females, RB> although the term is only rarely used nowadays.
RB> The German term for a female teacher is "Lehrerin" (the "in") at the RB> end indicates "female". A "Lehrer" is a male teacher. Have to make some RB> distinction to avoid calling a woman "Mr." or a man "Ms.".
When filling in forms for a trip to Austria by my pupils, I was advised by our German teacher (who actually was German) to describe a female teacher as "Weibliche Lehrkraft". I suppose that's fairly formal.
RB> Incidentally, the "Ms." would correspond to the German "Frau".
Mrs and Ms.
"Mrs" is for a married woman, "Ms" can be either married or single but they don't want you to know which! (That's an Americanism that has crept into the UK!)
David
-- Formerly ICHTHUS (Reading) UK (1987-2007 R.I.P.) (2:292/854.110)
