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От   : Gerrit Kuehn                     2:240/12           20 Jun 16 19:52:38
Кому : Michiel van der Vlist                               20 Jun 16 19:52:38
Тема : Brexit
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Hello Michiel!

19 Jun 16 23:38, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to BjЎrn Felten:


MvdV> Perhaps. But within that "New Union" there would still be net
MvdV> contributors and net receivers. Or "leeches" in your words. What
MvdV> will be the next step? Should we do another round and kick out the
MvdV> new "leeches"?

This is obviously not the way to go. Germany has a similar system among the federal states:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_Payments_in_Germany>

Interestingly, here the southern states tend to pay for the northen ones. Of course this system if often debated, but it works.

But you bring up another idea here:

MvdV> We may end up with the city states we had in the middle ages...

This may not be too bad if done properly to take advantage of the benefits this could have: Small-scale structures tend to be less efficient compared to large ones, but they also tend to be much more robust. If one of them fails, it is way easier for the others to help out, because the failure is small compared to the sum of everything. People on a local scale tend to know much better what is needed locally and how things are done properly. So the small states would all be different, have their own way, and having a larger number of them fail at once would be very unlikely.
You would still need some structure beyond the local scale to care about failures, have some "social net" to prevent people from perishing.
But in many ways it would be a gigantic step forward to give up the national states and replace them with something smaller, more regional, and a superstructure to hold them together.


Regards,
Gerrit

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