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От   : Gerrit Kuehn                     2:240/12           15 Jul 16 17:09:06
Кому : Robert Bashe                                        15 Jul 16 17:09:06
Тема : Brexit
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Hello Robert!

15 Jul 16 14:30, Robert Bashe wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


RB>>>>>>> No, that's not true in Switzerland. There, certain number of
RB>>>>>>> people can force a referendum on a specific question.

GK>> State referendums are possible in all states since the 1990ies.

RB> You're backing up. Do you realize that? The original question was one
RB> of NATIONAL referendums.

You're making up things you maybe did think but not write. See above: you wrote about an (arbitrary) "referendum on a specific question". You did not say "national referendum on any question".

RB> Now you're pulling back and fixing on state
RB> referendums, which have only existed in Bavaria, whether they are
RB> legal elsewhere or not.

They exist in every state. Please get your facts straight and read at least the wikipedia articles I cited.

RB> That's NOT the same as the NATIONAL referndums in Switzerland,
RB> whether you accept that or not.

You put in the "national" tag afterwards.

RB> No, like the one that was NOT called in Germany because the "basic
RB> law" does not allow it and the parties are all scared of losing their
RB> privileges if the "common man" has a say in government.

Again: please get your facts straight. I already wrote that there have been numerous attempts to change this. The latest (by SPD and CSU in 2013) was blocked by the CDU (and only by them). Moreover, I explained why I think (in contrast to what I would have said about this 20 years ago) that this is not something we need now.


Regards,
Gerrit

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