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От   : Markus Reschke                   2:240/1661         03 May 18 16:31:44
Кому : Michiel van der Vlist                               03 May 18 16:31:44
Тема : GDPR
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Hi Michiel!

May 03 15:40 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

MvdV> Yes, IP numbers are personel data. Confirmed by Dutch Court
MvdV> rulings. And by extension so are Fidonet node numbers. Probably.

MvdV> But he fact that they are personal data, does not necesarely mean
MvdV> that those numbers are stored and kept on behalf of the
MvdV> organisation of Fidonet. That I am a member of Fdionet does not  
MvdV> mean that I can not store and keep data as a person.

Then you have to differentiate between what's related to your personal activity and what's is Fidonet related.

MvdV> Why the RC? Why not the NC? And if the resposibility floats to the
MvdV> top why stop at the RC? Why not the ZC?

Yes, it could be also the ZC. That depends on how a judge would interprete our organizational structure.

MvdV> Yes, the las applies. But that does not mean that everything every
MvdV> member does is the responsibility of the chairman.

Of course not, but the chairman is responsible that the club/society is GDPR compliant.

MR>> also correction and deletion of personal data. So the *C would have
MR>> to ask all nodes to send him all personal data about a specific
MR>> person. That wouldn't work reliably.

MvdV> Indeed, obviously that would not work. And if that how the law is
MvdV> interpreted and enforced, that would be the end of Fidonet.

Exactly! And every person has the right to request a copy of personal data stored, the correction of false data or the deletion of data (unless the storage is required by other laws).

MvdV> But I am not that pessimistic. No doubt Fidonet will not be the
MvdV> only one with this problem and surely there will be other
MvdV> organisations with a much higher profile. I have confidence that
MvdV> such problems will be worked out before Fidonet appears on the
MvdV> radar of the enforcers...

Every sports club and what have you has the same problem. In our case it's more complex, because we aren't an official club/society (unclear responsibilities) and each member is processing and storing personal data. In a typical sports club only the board would do this (membership list, fees, ...).

ciao,
Markus

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