= Сообщение: 4030 из 12549 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : Robert Bashe 2:2448/44 11 Jul 16 09:57:06 Кому : Gerrit Kuehn 11 Jul 16 09:57:06 Тема : Brexit FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:2448/44+578351f4 На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:240/12+576db520 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP866 ================================== Ответ: area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:240/12+576db52c ============================================================================== Gerrit Kuehn wrote to Robert Bashe on Sunday July 10 2016 at 11:34:
RB>> And naturally never demand the kind of democracy that exists in RB>> Switzerland, where the population _actually_ may disagree with those RB>> in power.
GK> You disagree all the time, does anyone prevent you from doing so?
In Switzerland, the disagreement can force a change in legislation, or even prevent it. The question is not whether disagreement is possible, but whether it has any effect.
RB>> I often regret the lack of civil disobedience in Germany, but put it RB>> down to the lack of true revolution in the country. The French had a RB>> revolution in 1798 (successful), the Germans in 1848 (unsuccessful). RB>> That unfortunately tells all.
GK> Yeah, it saved us from the terror of the first republic (some 40000 GK> executions by "legal" decision of the new government alone), a civil GK> war, a counter revolution or two, a couple of international wars, and GK> another crazy dictator.