= Сообщение: 4113 из 12549 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : Robert Bashe 2:2448/44 12 Jul 16 17:06:42 Кому : Michiel van der Vlist 12 Jul 16 17:06:42 Тема : Brexit FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:2448/44+578508cb На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/5555+5784df1f = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP866 ================================== ============================================================================== Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Robert Bashe on Tuesday July 12 2016 at 14:05:
MV>>> I beg to differ. It the EU had wanted Greece to be out, it would be MV>>> out. They'd have found a way.
RB>> Not a legal one, at any rate. The treaties provide no way to legally RB>> expel a member.
MV> Legal is what those who have the power to get it done call legal. That MV> is how things work in the big bad world. The 2001 Iraq invasion was MV> illegal. But George Bush and Tony Blair did it anyway and declared it MV> legal afterwards.
The one has nothing at all to do with the other. Where was an invation of Iraq forbidden by treaty between the USA and the UK? To say nothing of further countries.
The fact remains that 27 countries will have to UNANIMOUSLY agree to change the EU treaties for a member to be ejected involuntarily. This is not war, this is not merely an agreement between the governments of two countries, this is a treaty among no less than 27 countries. And no amount of denial will change that.
MV> Get your head out of the cloud and your feet back on the ground.
I might send the same back to you. You're imagining scenarios that are legally impossible, assuming you don't anticipate the total disintegration of the EU.
MV> I haven't forgotten that this is not a perfect world. But it is better MV> than the world we had before the EU.
Is it? I thought ESTA wasn't a bad system: commercial/trade agreements but without the political junk we have now.
