= Сообщение: 6699 из 12550 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : Henri Derksen 2:280/1208 13 Jun 18 15:10:00 Кому : Gerrit Kuehn 13 Jun 18 15:10:00 Тема : Fiber connection to every household. FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/1208@FidoNet+520b8679 На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:240/12+5a80ab37 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: ASCII ================================== Ответ: area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:2448/44+5b2257c2 ============================================================================== Hello Gerrit, Robert and others,
MvdV>>> first priority is to keep themselves and the shareholders happy. Did MvdV>>> that change the situation? Sure it did! It became more expensive and MvdV>>> less reliable. A change indeed. But not for the better...
In the UK the same happend at railways. It was getting so worse with the safety, they want it back to the government. For the same reason we in NL are afraid of moving the rail to the private market. The NS is now trying to buy back the smaller lines witch were sold to smaller providers (Arriva, Syntus, Veolia, Breng, Connexxion, Keolis) but have problems on several items. The public hates it too to check in and out on the same yourney when traveling by more than one rail provider to reach the wanted destination by rail for normal dayly use with the same OV-Card. Note, this is apart and without the steam- and museum (hobby) railway lines.
Some managers thougt there were no wc's necessarry in Dutch trains ;-(. And at stations many wc's were gone too. Young people can hold it up for 3 hours, but elederly ones not even half an hour. Even a group of transportation workers were complaining. It takes years before such big managing mistakes are corrected. There was also an enviroment problem with it. Formerly it went between rails, now it must be stored in tanks that costs extra works and makes it more expensive, that's why they leaved it out of many trains.
RB>> Strange... we've had an open market for gas and electricity for RB>> several years, and I have changed providers of both, but have never RB>> noticed any problems.
You forget the problems with wind- and sun- electricity producers at the high level Voltage transporters in Northern Germany to keep the Voltage at 230 Vac~ and the Frequency at exact 50 Hz some years back. Here in NL we had the same problem at a dark day with no wind this year. So the energy from sunpanels and windturbines was very low. TenneT had to buy electrical energy in other countries to give the users what they asked for. And this happend with only 10 % renewable energy, so in future it will get a more and much bigger problem to stabilize the energy market in real time.
RB>> Maybe the providers in NL are not as reliable as the ones in Germany.
There are to less technically skilled people in all EU contries to serve the problems there are comming for the energy transition from oil, coal, gas and nuclear to sun, wind, water, and biogas produced electricity and to stabilize the Voltages and frequency during the whole day and night in both summer and winter. You know all countries are connected by high Voltages lines. That wil become a very difficult job, and energy storage in many ways shall become one of the solutions for buffering. I.e. Hydrogen, pressed air, water in reservoirs. Even a ringdike in the North Sea pumping water out of it when there is les demand and energy is over, and let it flow back via turbines when extra electricity is needed. Sure we must use the tide much more.
You remember the frequency deviation we had some months ago when clocks were running to fast and/or to slow?
GK> The "opening" of the markets is just not long enough ago, infrastructure GK> doesn't rot that fast. However, quite a few customers meanwhile know GK> what it means if your provider for gas or electricity goes bancrupt...
We are going to leave fossil energy. So no gas anymore, Groningen is going to be closed before 2030. The solution would be sunpanels and local accumulated storage of energy. Heating can be done with an air/water heatpump, cooking on an induction cookplate, so zero on the meter, and then no gas- or electric provider needed anymore. Skippers are doing this already for many years ;-). When that energy transition is ready, you only may want phone, tv and InterNet. And some people donot use that too ;-). Good luck in choosing your providers.
Henri.
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