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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         08 Sep 17 14:34:07
Кому : Alexey Vissarionov                                  08 Sep 17 14:34:07
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Hello Alexey,

On Friday September 08 2017 13:22, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

WD>> I'm under the impression that a RIN has to be direct addressable.

AV> EONs _are_ direct addressable.

Not in my perception. There is no direct real time interaction between a mailer at the sender's node and a mailer at the receiver's node. The .pkt is dumped on the hard disk of a third party and just like with a point, the sender has no control over if/when the recipient picks it up.

WD>> How would an IMI take care of that in your opinion ?

AV> The problem (as I see it) is to make "Pvt RIN".

And why would we want Pvt RINs?  What problem is a Pvt RIN a solution for?

Even more: in this day and age, why would we allow Pvt nodes at all? What is the added value for the network as a whole in this day and age?

In the past (POTS age) we had sponsored echomail hubs that were behind a private branch exchange. They could not accept incoming calls, but they could make outgoing calls and the telephone bill landed on the desk of the sponsor. Using a point to distribute echomail had various problems, so these echomail hubs needed a fully fledged node number. They had value for the network as a whole, so a Pvt node was justified.

Today with virtually no extra cost for mail transport, there is no longer a justification for such Pvt nodes. IMNSHO today someone asking for a Pvt node is someone who wants the benefits of Fidonet membership, but not the duties.

IMNSHO, a system that does not have a mailer on-line to accept mail at least during ZMH has the reachability of a point and therefore should BE a point. They do not belong in the nodelist.


Cheers, Michiel

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