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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         04 May 18 13:59:39
Кому : Markus Reschke                                      04 May 18 13:59:39
Тема : GDPR
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Hello Markus,

On Friday May 04 2018 13:22, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> At least that is the situation in The Netherlands. You may call
MvdV>> it playing Russian roulette, but other than what I wrote about
MvdV>> the location field in the nodelist, there is not much that I
MvdV>> can do at the moment other than see how this evolves.

MR> To minimze risks you'd start with the worst case

Worst case is that I have to pull the plug on Fidonet. I am not prepaired to do that. Not yet...

MR> and follow the GDPR by the letter.

Impossible. Too vague and too much room for interpretation. As you already pointed out, we do not even know yet who is responsible for what part.

MR> As long as there are no court decisions easing up things

Or tightening it down...

MR> we can't do anything about it.

We can take a position. I think we all should take the position that we can only take responsibility for that what we do and can control. As a *C I have control over what is in my part of the nodelist. As a sysop I have control over my logs and the data I gather and store about my points and users. I have no control over what other sysops do on their systems and therefore I reject responsibility for that part.

The idea that a *C should be able to produce information about ALL personal data of processed by ALL fidonet sysops is ridiculous. I say that each sysop is responsible for what happens on his system and no one else. A position that is backed up by P4. That is the position I will defend when push comes to shove.

If I lose when push comes to shove, so be it.

Do I take a risk? Yas I do. But one can not live without taking risks.

I say we should all take the position that I outlined above. If we all take the same position, we will stand stronger.

MvdV>> Dutch saying: "De soep wordt nooit zo heet gegeten als ze wordt
MvdV>> opgediend."

MR> Well known over here too. Another variant is: "Es wird nicht so heiss
MR> gegessen wie gekocht wird."

So there you gp...


Cheers, Michiel

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