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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555.1       14 Jul 16 15:00:22
Кому : Robert Bashe                                        14 Jul 16 15:00:22
Тема : Brexit
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Hello Robert,

On Thursday July 14 2016 06:07, you wrote to me:

RB> Don't try to put words in my mouth, Michiel.

Whatever. Your reasoning is circular.

RB> You understand as well as I do that the treaties provide NO legal
RB> method of expelling a member state against it's will.

Oh, I understand that. What I also understand and you don't is that it is irrelevant. What is legal or not is determined in a court of law. Without an independant authority that has the teeth to enforce it, "legal" is a meaningless term. In conflicts between countries, it is the law of the jungle.

If the EU wants a memeber out, then that member will go out. Says the law of the jungle.

MV>> In the case of Greece it would have been quit easy to get rid of
MV>> them. Just stop the flow of money. That would leve them no choice.

RB> Of course. And then the Euro and the EU collapse together.

Not all all. The EU can survive without Greece.

RB>  And just _who_ would "stop the flow of money"?

Those funding the "loans" to Greece of course.

RB> Germany alone? The IMF alone? France alone? Even if the will were
RB> there, and the existing treaties ignored - a thing of impossibility -
RB> no government would want to be stigmatized as the gravedigger of the
RB> EU.

Irrelevant. The EU will survive without Greece. Greece is still in because the EU wanted to keep them in. No matter what the treaties say.


Cheers, Michiel

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