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От   : Ward Dossche                     2:292/854.1        24 Jun 16 10:34:33
Кому : BjФrn Felten                                        24 Jun 16 10:34:33
Тема : Re: Brexit
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Bjorn [I don't know how to use fancy letters here for your name on this contraption].
 
BF>WD> That is cheap below the belt politics.
 
BF>WD> Shame on you.
 
BF> Well, honestly, don't you think he has a point?
 
Not in the way it landed here because Donald Trump said exactly the same thing.
 
For example, not every country got milliards of dollars to rebuild its economy and now thrives because of the foreign aid it got via the Marshall plan, even the Netherlands got a heap of money.
 
Belgium is one of the only ones after WW2 which tried to get back going without an outside [mostly American] aid plan. In 1948 it was the initiative taker of the very first union after which Schuman modeled his plan for the first union of 6 countries.
 
Belgium has continuously been very pivotal in European and global politics up to being the only one resisting the placement of Pqriot ;issiles on the outer borders.
 
You will not see our leaders elbow out others to be closer to Obama in a photo but taking the business of the country close at heart. The current government is really working hard to have a budget more and more balanced, the economy is thriving, the jobless rate is down. We have a healthcare and social program which is only bested by Sweden. people do not have to sleep in the streets [anymore] ... we try to take care of our shit.
 
Terrorist attacks? OK, well ... we didn't plan those. Nobody accused the Norwegian government either when Breivik went on his killing spree at Utoya. These lone people operate under the radar.
 
There is often talk about language issues and I don't understand what the outsiders are talking about. The problems only arise when the French-speaking part of the Socialist party is NOT in government. Contrary to popular belief the typical Flemish parties are not that separatist as some journalists of specific publications grasping for copy to publish are willing to produce.
 
The reigning party at this moment is Flemish, accused to be separatist by French speaking socialists, however the former promoted a French speaking member of the Liberal party to become the Prime Minister [and doing a very good job at that].
 
It's not really funny when people abuse their non-knowledge to promote their non-understanding of something which basically is a non-event ... especially when the French speaking socialists are kicked out of power.
 
BF> After all, Belgium is nothing but a political creation, almost like
BF> the countries in Africa and Arabia. A DMZ between France and the
BF> Netherlands.
 
Yes, the result of the aftermatch of the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, but we cannot be blamed for that. If someone needs to be blamed for Belgium, then it is the British, the Dutch and ... the Germans.
 
BF> What does the southern, French speaking, part of Belgium has to
BF> contribute to Belgium's healthy economy, compared to the strong, Flemish
BF> part?
 
Their contribution is negative, Flanders has a decade-long experience at contributing which is part of the reason why we have no net-contribution problems with You-Rob.
 
BF> And no, I'm NOT pissed off just because you beat Sweden in the
BF> European football tournament sending us home ending last in our group...
BF> 8-)
 
We did?
 
Really, football is a game between people who get paid way too much for what they're doing. De Bruyne eqrning 245.000 Euro per week taxed at 18% ... well, nice for him, but it remains a game turned into a business.
 
It's sad Sweden is out because Ibrahimovitch has never been able to perform in the end stages of such a major competition. An artist which will be missed, his adversaries in the Belgian team went to congratulate him on a great carreer ... but he lacks a major prize.
 
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