= Сообщение: 945 из 7127 ======================================= FTSC_PUBLIC = От : Nicholas Boel 1:154/701 04 Jan 14 16:32:00 Кому : Kees van Eeten 04 Jan 14 16:32:00 Тема : all over but the crying? FGHI : area://FTSC_PUBLIC?msgid=1:154/701+52c88da9 На : area://FTSC_PUBLIC?msgid=2:280/5003.4+52c85d74 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: UTF-8 ================================== ============================================================================== Hello Kees,
On 04 Jan 14 20:08, Kees van Eeten wrote to Nicholas Boel:
NB>> If what Kees says is true, and it's in the translation tables NB>> (which I've tried manually setting to a level 4, and also using a NB>> workaround that was done for the Win32 version that Michiel NB>> uses), then those translation tables are still maintained by the NB>> developers of Golded, since their formatting has been changed so NB>> Golded can read them properly. There's definitely something NB>> wrong, and I'd like to find out what it is.
KE> The tables provided by the developers of Golded only convert from KE> 8bit sets to utf-8. The for the otherway around are by Michiel. KE> The level 4 is documented in the relevant FTSC document. But it does KE> not follows that Golded has it implemented.
Unless Michiel was mistaken, he told me it is the tables that convert from the 8bit sets to UTF-8 that set the level parameter while I'm posting a message. Since I am only translating TO UTF-8, and don't have a need to translate back the other way, that is for the reader to do. Correct?
NB>>>> As it seems, the current maintainer of Golded happens to be one NB>>>> of the authors of FTS-5003.001, so that may help the cause at NB>>>> least.
KE> That sould be a better place for the final verdict.
Maybe, but until some answers are provided, we don't know where the issue really lies. It would almost be better off if FTN software didn't put a level on UTF-* messages, since it is described that level 4 is only for multibyte character sets, which according to FTS-5003.001 is only unicode.
So, we could talk about the issue with Golded putting a level 2 on a UTF-8 message in the GOLDED echo, or we could talk about dropping the level 4 after a UTF-8 CHRS kludge in this echo. Which do you prefer?
The fact of the matter is, quite a few Linux distrobutions come with UTF-8 enabled by default these days. To support it wouldn't be a bad thing, would it?
Or would you rather sit and do absolutely nothing?
NB>> While it is in relation to documented standards, I suppose I can NB>> agree there.
KE> It discusses an implementation not the standard.
Depends which way you are looking at it.
Regards, Nick
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