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От   : Nicholas Boel                    1:154/701          12 Jan 14 21:12:52
Кому : Maurice Kinal                                       12 Jan 14 21:12:52
Тема : CHRS kludge implementations
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Hello Maurice,

On 13 Jan 14 00:58, Maurice Kinal wrote to Nicholas Boel:

NB>> Whether any software actually makes use of it is another story

MK> It doesn't need to in the case of utf-8.  utf-8 characters stick out
MK> like a sore thumb.

In all reality, yes you are right. In the Fidonet world, at one time
developers may have though about implementing UTF-8, and maybe their thinking
was to add the CHRS kludge so other charsets could translate it, while with
the level kludge, knowing it was multibyte, be prepared to remove any
multibyte characters if it couldn't handle them.

That's a lot of maybes, though. I'm completely guessing there.

NB>> it's supposed to let other software know there are multibyte
NB>> characters in the header or message

MK> Which other software?

Before getting your panties in a bunch over it and going about another tyrade,
I already agreed there is no software out there using it, except possibly the
few sysop editors out there. Even then those aren't using it the way they
should be, since they can't display most multibyte characters with or without
the level kludge.

MK> The reason I use utf-8, when I actually put multibyte characters
MK> (seldom) in any text based file or whatever I/0, is that there are no
MK> real restrictions to any specific range of codes.  utf-8 should remain
MK> pure methinks.  I honestly believe they are more powerful left as is.
MK> There is no 8-bit codepage that can compete or make a claim to
MK> universality.

The reason I use it, is because I use Linux, and every distro I have used for
the past few years has it enabled by default. I've been able to see more
textfiles, console websites, etc. much clearer ever since I jumped from the
8859-1 bandwagon, so I stuck with it and haven't looked back. It really is the
best universal charset.

Regards,
Nick

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