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От   : Janis Kracht                     1:261/38           04 Dec 13 21:38:06
Кому : Ward Dossche                                        04 Dec 13 21:38:06
Тема : Re: Dispute from ZCC
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Hi Ward,

>> > The voting during your Presidential elections is public.

>> No it is not, ...

> Yes it is.

I must disagree.

>> ... when done with antiquated voting machines with pull levers,
>> you voted alone behind a curtain so no one could see your choices. Now
>> in NYS, with electronic voting no one can see your ballot submitted in a
>> machine unless you flash it around the room beforehand :)

>You are not electing a President when you vote, but merely choosing a group of
> electors who will then vote for the President in an election which outcome is
> already known before it starts.

> Therefor by definition, it is "public".

Lol :)

> I thought you knew that.

It is not _always_ know beforehand, even how the electorate will vote.  Granted some great statisticians like Nate Silver (if you don't know who he is, you should read about him) can tell you who is going to win if you pay attention, but otherwise, no, it is not always a given, and even then, you cannot call what you describe as public knowledge of your own vote :)

Way off here Ward :)

Take care,
Janis

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