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От   : Janis Kracht                     1:261/38           04 Dec 14 13:35:44
Кому : Kees Van Eeten                                      04 Dec 14 13:35:44
Тема : Your complaint
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Hi Kees,

>>> If Michiel had struck the last minit vote that was sent by netmail, you
>>> would all be just as offended.

>> Possibly... That is why an uninvolved election coordinator/counter/judge
>> is importantant in any election.

> Yes I agree.

And yet no word from the FTSC Chair that future elections will include this. Perhaps he is waiting for a more formal request?

>> After the previous fiasco, I truly expected Michiel would 1) clearly
>> state
>> the nominating and then voting procedure, 2) stand aside and let someone
>> else handle the details of collecting, enumerating and deciding the
>> results.

> I can only agree to that as well. We learn every time and most after some
> incident. I think from last years election the lesson was, that pushing a
> not fully supported character set was not a smart thing to do.

Certainly.  Unfortunately there was no candidate this time that would have pushed that envelope of the charset.

> The lessen for this year is clearly for the Chairman not be be involved
> in the process. That could also have been learned from the previous
> election, but was overshadowed by the charset incident.

And again, we have no word from the FTSC Chair how future situations like the time before last involving the charset will be handled, neither do we have word from the FTSC Chair how future election coordinators will be handled.

> I have not followed any FTSC elections before that, but if the
> curent procedure seems just a repeat from many others, the procedure seems
> to have been acceptable for many years.

It is now apparent to me after two problemetic elections in a row that this should change.  This FTSC chair has always done it all himself. The question is what must we do to prevent problems in future FTSC elections where the charset is a problem, and how do we get the FTSC Chair to appoint an election coordinator that is not himself, and how do we make sure that the method of election is clearly stated beforehand and followed?

Perhaps we need to revisit FTA-1001.???.  It is difficult on my system to determine which is the latest one right now, so I'll probably visit ftsc.org.

Take care,
Janis

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