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От   : mark lewis                       1:3634/12          08 Jan 14 19:03:55
Кому : Maurice Kinal                                       08 Jan 14 19:03:55
Тема : all over but the crying?
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 On Wed, 08 Jan 2014, Maurice Kinal wrote to mark lewis:

ml> TZUTC is not meant to be fed to 'date'

MK> Understood.  Not a big deal since it is a bogus kludge anyhow.

how do you figure that it is bogus? it is no different than adding the timezone to an email date stamp... it just happens to reside in another control line...

ml> TZUTC works perfectly for all who use it

MK> Really?  I've witnessed the contrary

in what way? examples, please...

MK> and since then have reverted back to my original hunch that all
MK> datetime stamps are likely wrong.

why would you say that? the time stamps are correct for the software generating them... not all software honors user's software generated time stamps... there's no problem with that...

MK> At best extremely suspicious although I am aware of a few that are
MK> more or less accurate.  Mind you that depends on how one defines
MK> accurate.

it also depends on what you define as suspicious when it comes to time stamps... no one ever said that a user's offline time stamp must be honored when they upload their offline written mails...

MK> What does the FTSC claim about the accuracy of their obsoleted MSG
MK> datetime stamp or haven't they documented that yet?  ;-)

the FTSC doesn't claim anything, AFAIK... the documentation is available... you can easily read what it has to say ;)

ml> fidonet has its own standards created and maintained for its own
ml> needs

MK> Says who?  I have yet to see much evidence to support that theory.

really? if fidonet didn't create and maintain their own standards, then where did all the fidonet technology standards come from?

MK> From this angle it appears to support a select few who have decided
MK> that the rest of fidonet should be in sync with their shoddy
MK> 'standards' and most of them, if indeed not all of them, have long
MK> since flown the coop.  Very little of what I read in FTSC documents
MK> has anything to do with reality, nevermind standards.

then you have not been reading for comprehension... we've had this discussion several times over the last decade or two, maurice... you just like yanking chains and stirring the pot :?

)\/(ark

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