= Сообщение: 83 из 7128 ======================================== FTSC_PUBLIC = От : mark lewis 1:3634/12.71 23 Oct 13 13:08:09 Кому : Nick Andre 23 Oct 13 13:08:09 Тема : FTSC Nominations FGHI : area://FTSC_PUBLIC?msgid=1:3634/12.71+268047c0 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP866 ================================== Ответ: area://FTSC_PUBLIC?msgid=1:132/174+52696f8e ==============================================================================
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013, Nick Andre wrote to Mark Lewis:
ML> NA> Very rare. The published standards are fairly straightforward. ML> ML> really? then why does one have to test implementations against ML> other softwa ML> to see how it/they work so they can be duplicated... even if those ML> implementations are not to the spec being followed? this does introduce
NA> Either the FTSC is not doing its job by publishing CLEAR standards,
possibly but that's up to the chairperson and the members, isn't it?
NA> or the programmer is expecting the FTSC to babysit his product,
doubtful...
NA> or certain elected FTSC members feel the need to be Mother Teresa.
doubtful...
ML> i'm aware of at least two products which should have a PID ML> assigned so tha ML> other software that processes based on the PID in the PKT don't ML> screw thing ML> up... this situation was brought up recently in a developing ML> package's supp
NA> Sigh, more of your typical drama-stirring and ignorance. Name me NA> one software that screws up from an invalid PID or from being NA> presented an invalid PID.
i don't know what the product is... uli reported it recently... and we're not talking about the PID control line... we're talking about the product id inside a PKT file... i know of at least one product that alters its processing based on the PKT PID byte(s) and evidently there are others... uli's report said that whatever software was used was being confused by the 00FE, 00FF, FEFE, or FFFF product id bytes in PKTs and was unable to properly load information it was expecting from the PKT header...
ML> there are documents, now, that are "expired" because a FTSC has ML> not reviewe ML> them and updated them or at least altered their expiration date... ML> this typ
NA> Then the FTSC is totally completely useless as it is, not doing its NA> job and should be disbanded or greatly reduced as I suggested.
this is part of the task of the chairman, isn't it? the size of the FTSC has nothing to do with what the FTSC does... leadership is a big part, too...
ML> NA> I will reiterate what Michiel has stated - Anyone looking to join ML> NA> the FTSC in hopes of resurrecting our hobbby into the next ML> NA> Facebook should think twice. ML> ML> it is not about ressurection... it is about doing the job of the ML> FTSC and t ML> actively assist when asked or to offer assistance when problems ML> are seen...
NA> What part of the FTSC is not to be babysitting other programmer's NA> software or offering unlimited free technical support do you not NA> understand?
the FTSC does not babysit other programmers' software... the FTSC does not offer unlimited free technical support, either... who said they did?
NA> What is it about directing programmers to the NET_DEV echo that NA> is far over your head?
it is not over my head and i've pointed to the NET_DEV many times over the years...