ml>> interesting... i wonder who that was? is it any less bad that one of ml>> the candidates has threatened to DDoS other FTN systems off the 'net ml>> if they attempt to provide certain services or other communications ml>> methods??
WD> Name names, show proof or shut up.
done... extraneous verbiage [CHOMP]ed out for brevity...
==== Begin "alexey-DDoS1.txt" ==== = ftsc (1:3634/12.73) ========================================================= Msg : 1539 of 4346 Rcv From : Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 2012 09 26 10:10:00 To : mark lewis Subj : fts-5001.003 =============================================================================== @REPLY: 1:3634/12.0 061fd64f @MSGID: 2:5020/545 50629c3a @CHRS: CP866 2 @TZUTC: 0400 Good ${greeting_time}, mark!
25 Sep 2012 17:31:44, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
MvdV>> It used to be fidonet.net, but the keeper(s) let the registration MvdV>> lapse en it was lost for the fidonet community. ml> i like this... it should also be noted that the current root-domain ml> to use is binkp.net for the FTN fidonet domain...
It is not. Should I initiate a small (2...3 Gbit/s) DDoS on
gremlin@hren:~ > host -t ns binkp.net binkp.net name server ns.secondary.net.ua. binkp.net name server ns9.grumbler.org. binkp.net name server nsa.remotehost.spb.ru. binkp.net name server happy.kiev.ua.
to prove that? Or didn't the story of fidonet.net teach people at least something about single points of failure and their avoidance?
That's why I strictly object against fixating any and all domains in the standards, and recommend using the phrase "publicly available DDN NS zones" instead.
-- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii
... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world -!- /bin/vi ! Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545) SEEN+BY: 261/38 275/100 320/119 712/848 3634/12 @PATH: 5020/545 712/848 3634/12
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==== Begin "alexey-DDoS2.txt" ==== = ftsc (1:3634/12.73) ========================================================= Msg : 1564 of 4346 Rcv From : Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 2012 10 03 13:01:00 To : mark lewis Subj : fts-5001.003 =============================================================================== @REPLY: 1:3634/12.0 06b429a1 @MSGID: 2:5020/545 506bfecd @CHRS: CP866 2 @TZUTC: 0400 Good ${greeting_time}, mark!
02 Oct 2012 15:39:40, you wrote to me:
[CHOMP]
ml> at one time it was discussed to create a new line in the header of the ml> nodelist that indicates the default 'root-domain' for fidonet to use ml> for those folks with advanced enough software to be able to use such ml> additional capabilities... as long as historical methods and formats ml> are still accepted, i don't see a problem...
If any domain will be enforced, I'll do my best to kill it.
-- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii
... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world -!- /bin/vi ! Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545) SEEN+BY: 261/38 275/100 320/119 712/848 3634/12 @PATH: 5020/545 280/5555 712/848 3634/12
==== End "alexey-DDoS2.txt" ====
==== Begin "alexey-DDoS3.txt" ==== = ftsc (1:3634/12.73) ========================================================= Msg : 1588 of 4346 Rcv From : Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 2012 10 07 11:27:40 To : mark lewis Subj : fts-5001.003 =============================================================================== @REPLY: 1:3634/12.0 0706476f @MSGID: 2:5020/545 50712eee @CHRS: CP866 2 @TZUTC: 0400 Good ${greeting_time}, mark!
06 Oct 2012 17:29:06, you wrote to me:
[CHOMP]
AV>> If any domain will be enforced, I'll do my best to kill it. ml> you mean like doing underhanded things like DDOSing the root servers ml> for the domain in question?? that's a real "nice thing" to do :(
Yes. And this is better than depending on a private resource.
ml> i do not like your games like that which you have brought forth... ml> they are not in the spirit of fidonet and comms links...
Dependence on centralized private resources is even worse.
-- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii
==== Begin "alexey-DDoS4.txt" ==== = ftsc (1:3634/12.73) ========================================================= Msg : 4242 of 4346 Rcv From : Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 2017 08 08 10:16:20 To : mark lewis Subj : FTS-5001.006 draft 7 =============================================================================== Good ${greeting_time}, mark!
07 Aug 2017 22:03:16, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
[CHOMP]
MV>> ,1000,netmail<->email_gate,central_NC_USA,UUCP,1-919-774-5930,33600, MV>> XA,V34,CM,ITN,IBN:ftn.wpusa.dynip.com,IVM,PING,U,UUCP ml> see above for the fnz conversion protocol to determine the system ml> address when one is not specifically written in the nodelist entry... ml> hint: f1000.n3634.z1.binkp.net
Imagine I'd kill binkp.net (that would take a couple of seconds with 20...30k hosts) and keep it dead for some time - 2 weeks for a "Hold", 2 weeks for a "Down" and... voila: these idiotic nodes would leave the nodelist :-)
MV>> ,3000,wpusa_FTN_test_system,central_NC_USA,mark_lewis,-Unpublished-, MV>> 300,XA,ICM,ITN,IBN:ftn.wpusa.dynip.com,IVM,PING ml> see above for the fnz conversion protocol to determine the system ml> address when one is not specifically written in the nodelist entry... ml> hint: f3000.n3634.z1.binkp.net
Do you have some sort of dementia? If yes, leave FTSC and visit a doctor instead. If no, go kill yourself - that will make the world better.
-- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii
==== Begin "alexey-DDoS5.txt" ==== = ftsc (1:3634/12.73) ========================================================= Msg : 4258 of 4346 Rcv From : Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 2017 08 09 10:52:24 To : mark lewis Subj : FTS-5001.006 draft 7 =============================================================================== @REPLY: 1:3634/12.73 5989da0e @MSGID: 2:5020/545 598aca1a @CHRS: CP866 2 @TZUTC: 0300 Good ${greeting_time}, mark!
08 Aug 2017 11:34:30, you wrote to me:
[CHOMP]
AV>> Imagine I'd kill binkp.net (that would take a couple of seconds with AV>> 20...30k hosts) and keep it dead for some time - 2 weeks for a AV>> "Hold", 2 weeks for a "Down" and... voila: these idiotic nodes would AV>> leave the nodelist :-) ml> i doubt that... another service would come up to fill the void...
It would be laid down as well - DDoS is cheap to run and fast to settle.
[CHOMP]
-- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii
Always Mount a Scratch Monkey Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong... ... My security system is the latch on your screen door. --- * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
