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От   : mark lewis                       1:3634/12.73       14 Jan 22 07:00:38
Кому : Maurice Kinal                                       14 Jan 22 07:00:38
Тема : Unix point?
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Ответ: area://FTSC_PUBLIC?msgid=2:240/1120.29+1ebba408
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 On 2022 Jan 13 13:48:36, you wrote to me:

MK> @REPLY: 1:3634/12.73 61e08216
MK> @MSGID: 1:153/7001.2989 61e0a1bb
MK> @ENCODING: UTF-8
MK> @CHRS: UTF-8 4
MK> @TZ: UTC+08:15:02
MK> @TZUTC: -0815
MK> Hey mark!

ml>> he could/should use the existing control lines in addition to
ml>> the one's he testing

MK> Do you mean like this reply?

yes... but i have to wonder about the TZ control line having seconds in it... i'm also not so sure that UTC+8 hours is right for a system located on the western coast of Canada... unless your TZ code is using a/the non-POSIX format(?) or you are playing with your clock time as well ;)

ml>> and may eventually propose...

MK> I doubt I'll live that long.

it doesn't take long to come up with an idea that is good which other developers pick up and put into use... once that's done, the idea is all fleshed out, and working properly, one then only needs to write the proposal with the details of the idea and it's implementation and present said proposal for other developers to also pick up and start using if they want to...

MK> Anyhow I've already tested this particular idea and ended up rejecting
MK> it.

why?

MK> However in the spirit of demonstration, I'll try one more time
MK> although it doesn't look any better than the last test.  I maintain
MK> the CHRS and TZUTC should both be turfed never to be mentioned ever
MK> again for all eternity.

TZUTC is in place to clarify the time stamp in the message header since it is local time with no other indication of where "local" is...

have you looked at any of the other PKT and packed message formats? have you implemented any of them and gotten other developers to also implement them? that's what it takes to get things changed, ya know...

MK> Also the two digit year in the msgHeader while we're at it but that is
MK> another can of worms that *could* have been fixed with a proper utc
MK> offset

this is true but we also have to remember how storage was back in the days when these formats were created... i remember being logged into a few BBSes and having to ask the operator to change floppies in some drive so i could read older or newer messages or even to access some files that were offline at that time... generally speaking, after a few minutes, they would tell me to try again and there they were... that being because they had switched the data floppy out for the desired one... ahhh, the olden days when operators had to actually operate their systems :)

MK> and not the emasculated fts-4008.002 version.

i still cannot believe all this knicker twisting because somehow one cannot or refuses to code for a space or lack of a negative symbol to be recognized as a positive indicator before a number... i mean, that is the defacto standard all over the world where numbers are used... imagine if our math had to be written like this

  +2 + +2 = +4

instead of the much more common

  2 + 2 = 4

really?? [smh]

)\/(ark

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