HD> That means there is a BBS too! RW> Not really. HD> Yes, almost ALLWAYS! HD> If there is no BBS, the node should be listed with an MO flag.
ML> should be but they are not always listed as mail only...
That's why I used the words "almost" and "should".
HD> Or the system is not well configurated, HD> or the nodelist entry is wrong.
ML> that depends on one's perspective(s)...
That's the wrong practise. FTSC documents and NodeList epilogue are very clear about this item.
ML> not everyone in fidonet thinks the same way ;)
Not listing a MO flag, and rejecting BBScallers is Annoying Behavior. Because it costs POTS BBS-callers money for nothing; CONNECT, No Carrier... A BBScaller can ask a *C to correct the listing when needed.
HD> No MO-Flag, there should be a BBS, and a mailer, both! period. HD> MO flag, than BBS-users have no access, only mailers.
RW> The CM flag indicates that the node is in Continuous Mail mode.
HD> You are confused. HD> That's CM flag is to indicate the node is 24 h online and always HD> accept mail, also outside ZMH.
ML> true...
Not only that, it has nothing to do with the absents of the MO flag I started talking about, to prove that a Nodenumber is not always only the SysOp behind the mails from that AKA, but also could be one of the BBS-users ((Co-)SysOp inclusive).
HD> First there were BBSes, then they were connected to exchange mail too. HD> And later on many are Mail Only withouth a BBS, hence the MO-flag. HD> The CM flag does not indicate there a BBS or not, i.e. irrelevant. HD> The MO flag does wat it tells you, Mail Only, so No BBS.
ML> true for the most part... ML> MO was also implemented when there were a lot of BBS callers using the ML> nodelist to locate BBSes they wanted to call and visit... ML> adding the MO flag helped to indicate to them that there was ML> no BBS available...
I knew.
ML> however, it didn't stop all callers...
Indeed, and then there came the private nodes ;-). I.e. the Private keyword plus "Unplublished" in the phone field. That combination already started very many discussions, but that is another (not finished) thread, MakeNL comes to mind ;-).
ML> plus MO doesn't mean that there is not a BBS, either... ML> perhaps it is a private BBS that is not advertised to the public? ;)
I Agree. But my main argument was the opposit, i.e. No MO-flag listed, then there must be a BBS besides the mailer, otherwise the *C should place a MO flag. So when no BBS is available, the MO flag is mandatory.
ML> Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, ML> it is stranger than we can think. - Werner Heisenberg
Not only that, also FidoNet does have many strange birds flying around ;-).
Henri.
--- * Origin: Naugthy dog, do not bite the cable... NO TERRIER.
