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От   : Kees van Eeten                   2:280/5003.4       07 Jan 14 19:01:42
Кому : Maurice Kinal                                       07 Jan 14 19:01:42
Тема : CHRS kludge implementations
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Hello Maurice!

07 Jan 14 15:45, you wrote to me:

KvE>> that is what the CHRS kludge is supposed to do, eliminate this
KvE>> type of disagreement.

MK> I seriously doubt it

 Well you are in fidonet, lesser disagreements flared into exchange of words,
 that are not part of my vocabulary.

MK> but I turned it back on just because you sound like
MK> you honestly believe your words to be true.

 I beleive in prolonged exchange of idea's in a frendly atmosphere. Because
 tempers are sometimes easy to ignite, small things matter, as we have
 recently seen in this echo.

MK> Let me know when you discover
MK> the real truth ... errrr ... and what the truth actually is.

 That sound heavy, besides everything is relative to its environment.

MK> All I know
MK> for sure is that the level thingy is indeed bogus with respect to
MK> utf-8.
MK> I see the evidence everytime the ones who claim it to be valid actually
MK> try using it with utf-8 characters that don't fit their phoney-baloney
MK> 8-bit codepage.

 My take on this is as I said in my previous message, that the CHARS kludge
 was developed when the PC was the norm, and the OS was internationalized
 within the limits of the system.

 Then the FTSC documented the use and realized that there were also
 multibyte characterset. So to cope with this future the level indicator
 was added. However the option was not added to the software developed
 sofar.

 I have not looked into the code, it is quite a bit, but I would not be
 surprized if Golded ignores the level flag. So if you expect it to have effect
 you will be disappointed.

MK> It is doomed methinks.  The M├╕├╕se and ╨▒╤Ц╨╗╨║╨░ will back me up on
MK> this I am sure.

 It is, but the same is true for fidonet. Well I went to Scandinavia a
 few times, I drove from Trelleborg to Kirkeness and the spot where the
 border river between Russia and Norway flows into the Barentzsea, but I
 haven't seen one Moose, be it with or without slashed o's.

 Cyrrilic is probably an important characterset for you, I am sad to say,
 the only places where I have seen them used, was on Russian Tallships
 during the Sail events in Amsterdam. Usually the name of the ship also had
 a more or less equivalend name in the "western" characterset.

Kees

--- FPD v2.9.040207  GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

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