MK> notepad is doing golded's job and golded is stealing the credit. It MK> is a classic case of cheating.
"stealing"? "credit"? You apply human concepts of the real world to software. That makes no sense.
MvdV>> A BOM can be useful as a signature to help autodetect UTF-8.
MK> Perhaps to a braindead application like notepad.
What you call "braindead" is what others call "KISS".
MK> Good UTF-8 apps don't need it and have no issues with UTF-8 MK> identification.
Scanning just the first three bytes is easier than hunting through the text until you either find a well formed UTF-8 string or one that is not well formed.
Wether a BOM is desirable in Fidonet messages or not, is a matter of opinion. The Unicode standard however allows it, that is not subject to opinion.
MvdV>> Why do you think this is something that needs to be discussed MvdV>> with the FTSC?
MK> Because they helped to create this mess
The FTSC does not create standards, she documents current practise and that it is a mess is just your opinion.
MK> and I'd enjoy seeing it truly fixed for once.
There is nothing to fix, it ain't broke.
MvdV>> how to make Golded properly do UTF-8 to the Golded echo.
MK> Understood. However I don't use golded or any of it's needed cheats MK> to make utf-8 to work.
Good for you.
MK> However fts-5003 could use some retooling especially regarding the MK> level parameter. I for one think it should be ditched.
That is not going to happen. The CHRS kludge and its level parameter have been current practice for almost two decades. Even if present software does not need the level parameter any more, there is no added value in ditching it and risking breaking older software.
We have discussed this before. Stop fighting wind mills.
