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От   : Alexey Vissarionov               2:5020/545         25 Nov 13 15:54:00
Кому : Michiel van der Vlist                               25 Nov 13 15:54:00
Тема : UTF-8
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Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

25 Nov 2013 11:56:56, you wrote to me:

JD>>> Yes, and that would be region by region. A universal character
JD>>> set does not really exist, IMO. UTF 8 might be close, but I dont
JD>>> think it handles Cyrillic does it?
AV>> It does, but in a very stupid way.
MV> In what way is it "stupid"?

2 bytes per every character. For a 33-symbol alphabet (where 32 symbols are actually used) that constitutes unacceptable 100% redundance if compared to KOI8-R.

That's why I avoid UTF-8 where possible.

AV>>>> in Russian normally use KOI8-R (defined in the GOST 19768-74
AV>>>> standard, see also RFC 1489), and Fidonet messages in R50 (and
AV>>>> around) normally use CP866.
JD>>> Yup. Very aware of that.
AV>> Given that, when we need to use English, we don't change anything,
AV>> but simply use the Latin part of those character sets.
MV> What when you need to write German?

First, I'll need to learn it... :-)

Second, it uses same Latin characters found in English and several additional, therefore making almost no difference in the size of German text written using CP850 or UTF-8.


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