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От   : Alexey Vissarionov               2:5020/545         22 Mar 22 01:55:50
Кому : Tim Schattkowsky                                    22 Mar 22 01:55:50
Тема : Directly include binary data in messages
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Good ${greeting_time}, Tim!

21 Mar 2022 22:33:52, you wrote to BjФrn Felten:

TS>>> BTW: RFC8314 suggests already in the introduction that for
TS>>> email, implicit TLS should be preferred over STARTTLS :)
BF>> I've been following this thread for some time, and I don't
BF>> understand how it concerns our FTN network.
TS> You probably missed that we (no matter what the subject says)
TS> actually discussed, how BinkP connections can be secured by TLS?

TLS is not about the security - it is (really "was") mostly about the mutual authentification. It could work as designed (in the era of SSL 2.0 and before), but the emerge of HTTPS killed some key features of it.

TS> Unless I missed something, the messages people write are currently
TS> mostly transported using BinkP, which makes this sort of relevant.

You appear to be missing the key point: binkp is defined by its' reference implementation (binkd), and the FTS-1026 plays the secondary role.

#include <FTA-1006>

Yes, it _may_ support SSL/TLS.
Yes, it _may_ even share the inbound port with HTTPS.
Yes, it _may_ be set up to circumvent most barriers in the modern Internet.

But if you want to implement some of these features somewhere else, you _must_ know how that's implemented in binkd.


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