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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         16 May 14 01:08:28
Кому : Markus Reschke                                      16 May 14 01:08:28
Тема : Comcast & IPv6
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Hello Markus,

On Thursday May 15 2014 18:37, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> They would not get away with it if it was something more
MvdV>> visible, like delivering only half the advertised speed, but
MvdV>> missing IPv6? Only a handful of nerds care...

MR> Unfortunately true.

Yes and no. If the ISPs and router guys do it right, the Joe the plumber never needs to know. It just works.. ;-)

MR> And I also got the strong feeling that IPv6 support is going to be
MR> some kind of lottery for users.

Not if "they" do it right.

MR> There are several methods to get IPv6 to the CPE,

Isn't that over once native IPv6 becomes the rule rather than the exception?

MR> several ways how addresses and prefixes are assigned, and there's the
MR> issue how addresses and prefixes are assigned in the LAN.

Indeedd, but if done right, Joe the Plumber need not be bothered with that.

MR> Also we have to deal with subprefix delegation to other routers in the
MR> LAN.

That is still unchartered territory for me. I have just one router and one /64 in use. It is enough for me right now, but I can see that having more than one subnet might be useful in some situations. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.

MR> I doubt that any vendor will support all methods and get everything
MR> right.

Of course they won't. Mistakes will be made.

MR> And all that will overwhelm most users. One public IPv4 address and
MR> NAT is simple to understand. But with IPv6 users get public addresses
MR> inside their LAN. They'll panic :-)

You are a pessimist. ;-) I think it will not be that bad. Joe the Plumber has no idea what a LAN is. For him the modem/router is just the box that gives him access to the internet. His desktop, his smartphone, his tablet is connected to the internet. He doesn't know about IP numbers - v4 or v6 - he just knows that he is connected. He doesn't know that when the umbellical cord to the Internet is cut, his devices can still talk to each other.

Joe the plumber never set up a LAN that was NOT connected to the Internet.

They can with IPv4 and they still will be able with IPv6. But Joe the Plunber won't know and won't need to know.



Cheers, Michiel

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