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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         26 Sep 15 00:55:51
Кому : Björn Felten                                        26 Sep 15 00:55:51
Тема : ARIN's well has run dry
FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+5605d72d
На   : area://IPV6?msgid=2:203/2+56056b02
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Ответ: area://IPV6?msgid=2:203/2+56069a90
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Hello Björn,

On Friday September 25 2015 16:40, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> It is done. This morning they still has 4 /24 left. Now it is
MvdV>> all gone:

BF>    As was expected, you can still get ONE IPv4 address -- if you are
BF> willing to pay $10-12 per address.

BF>    The ISPs are really sucking as much money out of this as they
BF> can...

Of course it was expected. We have seen this coming for at least a decade. We didn't know when exactly it was going to happen, but that it would happen was a certainty.

And, yes there is a market for IPv4 adresses, there is demand and there is supply, so there is a price. The going rate is indeed some EUR 10,-

BF>    Typical western style capitalism. Create an artificial shortage and
BF> make lots of money on the resulting supply and demand economy.

I disagree with your analysis that the ISP's are milking this cow and that the shortage is artificially created. As I see it, there is nothing artificial about the shortage. It is simply a well running dry. Yes, the ISP are dragging their feet in the introduction of IPv6. But I do not see how that is to their financial advantage. As I see it, they only benefit in the short run. In the long run the late adopters are at a disadvantage. The longer they wait, the steeper the slope they have to climb to catch up. That costs...

BF>    Whatever happened to the old internet wants to be free spirit...?

The internet was never free. To function, the Internet needs hardware, it needs copper or fibre to connect things and it needs electricity. It also needs people to do the maintenance. All that can not be free. If it ever appeared to be free that was because someone else was paying the bill.

So.. How is your ISP (Telia?) doing with IPv6. Have they mentioned an introduction date?

Cheers, Michiel

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