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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         04 Oct 15 00:25:04
Кому : Markus Reschke                                      04 Oct 15 00:25:04
Тема : Raspeberry Pi / SixXS
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На   : area://IPV6?msgid=2:240/1661+56043318
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Hello Markus,

On Saturday October 03 2015 15:46, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Indeed the MAC address gives out some information. I doubt it
MvdV>> is all that useful for a hacker and if he wants the MAC address
MvdV>> that he can not entice the system to reveal it in some other
MvdV>> way.

MR> It's not about hackers, it's about being tracked by advertising and
MR> marketing companies.

They seem to do that pretty well without me explicitly broadcasting my MAC address.

MR>>> And DNS is no real issue since most are used to DynDNS for quite
MR>>> a while.

MvdV>> Really? I haven't used it in years.. And only for IPv4, never
MvdV>> for IPv6.

MR> Not everyone got a static IP address inclusive. In Germany you would
MR> have to choose an expensive business tariff for that.

In The Netherlands IP adresses are either static or semi static. The dsl providers issue static addresses. The cable boys issue addresses that are technically dynamic but that do not change unlees the MAC address of the interface is changed or during a _very_ long break. My address has not chaged in five years.

MvdV>> For a professional that may be an issue. For a hobby server.
MvdV>> Mwah.. it seldom happens and changing the AAAA record is no big
MvdV>> deal..

MR> If you have to do that 3 times within a few weeks, you'd automate it.

I did not have to change my IPv6 address. Ever.

MvdV>> I wonder what excuse the ISPs have for not simply issuing
MvdV>> static IPv6 prefixes. Dynamic addresses made sense in the dial
MvdV>> up age, when a small poool of adresses could be used for many
MvdV>> more users because they never were on line all at once. That
MvdV>> changed with te coming of home routers that usually were left on
MvdV>> 24/7 and so occupied an IP address 24/7. They needed one
MvdV>> address per customer anyway.

MR> Germany has a strong privacy law and ISPs are happy to charge you more
MR> for a business trariff with a static address/prefix.

I know that privacy is very important in Germany. I wish we had the same attitude here in The Netherlands. But I do not see how changing the IPv6 prefix is going to do much good to protect privacy. It seems like an execise in futility. One might as well argue that the number on your car should change every six month to protect privacy.

MvdV>> With IPv6 there never was such an excuse anyway. There is no
MvdV>> shortage of addresses and there will not be for the foreseeable
MvdV>> future. Why not give everyone a static prefix?

MR> I fully agree. The best approach would be to set dynamic prefixes as
MR> default and let the customer change that to static if he likes to.

That would be an option.

MvdV>> AFAIK, the Dutch IPSs that offer native IPv6 all issue static
MvdV>> prefixes.

Although that may change as well. Ziggo is rolling out IPv6 now. Since 14 September new customers get native IPv6 with ds-lite. It is too early to tell if the IPv6 prefixes they offer are static.

MR> Won't happen here :-(

Hmmmm...

Cheers, Michiel

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