= Сообщение: 1828 из 7440 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 03 Nov 15 21:59:54 Кому : Tommi Koivula 03 Nov 15 21:59:54 Тема : Ziggo & DS-lite FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+5639244d На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:221/360.3001+d99094f3 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP850 ================================== Ответ: area://IPV6?msgid=2:221/6+563a2d38 ============================================================================== Hello Tommi,
On Tuesday November 03 2015 20:49, you wrote to me:
>> What puzzles me is that since they offer the choice of a public IPv4 >> addres at no extra charge anyway, they do not have a shortage of IPv4 >> adresses yet. So that can't be the reason for not offering full dual >> stack. A full dual stack connection does not consume more IPv4 adresses >> than an IPv4 only connection.
TK> The default way is natted. I believe "normal" users don't even know TK> about NAT. They just happily surf the net. That's the way the ISP TK> saves public ipv4 addresses.
Of course. The vast majority of the customers will never notice that they are behind a CGNAT. They won't even know what a CGNAT is. Of the small minority that knws about it, an even smaller minority will run stuff that requires a public address en they will complain.
>> OTOH, 4G is mobile. Running servers on a smart phone is not aal that >> common is it?
TK> It's wireless, not necessarily mobile. Running a server fine here. :)
Here all mobile is behind CGNAT. And no IPv6 on the mobile yet. So no servers.
TK> Earlier this year I converted my ADSL to "doublebroadband" as the ISP TK> says, now I have dual-WAN in my main loadbalancing router: ADSL 10Mb + TK> LTE 50Mb.
Flat rate on the LTE or data cap?
TK> Native IPv6 with this makes no sense right now because the IPv6 TK> address changes everytime the LTE connection changes.
Why does the LTE connection change?
TK> So I'm quite happy with the HE tunnel.
If it works for you. ;-)
>> My guess is that they will follow the trend: IPv6 + natted IPv4 for >> all new customers except for those who will pay extra.
TK> Exactly.
But I have not seen it yet here. You either get a public IPv4 or you don't. No extra payment.
