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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         25 Sep 16 00:52:51
Кому : Richard Menedetter                                  25 Sep 16 00:52:51
Тема : IPv6 deham01 down (sixxs)
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Hello Richard,

On Saturday September 24 2016 09:15, you wrote to me:

RM> And I will not pay 4 times of what I do now just to get a business
RM> service with 1/10 of my current bandwidth but with IPv6 included.

Neither will I. My ISP is not perfect, but the price/performance ratio is good.

MV>> Pity it had to end that way, SixXs has done of lot of good work
MV>> promoting IPv6, but it seems JM is getting tired of it.

RM> I can understand that.

I can understand it too. He has been promoting IPv6 for some two decaded now and the tunnels were supposed to be a transition mechanism. SixXs should have been suprefluous five years ago. But the roll out of IPv6 goes too bloody slow and it that is frustrating. I can understand that....

MV>> Any chance of you getting native IPv6 in the foreseeable future?

RM> There are 2 big providers.
RM> One has switched to DS-Lite, and you can ask for (quasi static) public
RM> IPv4 only.

Happens here too. But only for those customers that happen to have the proper CPE. For others it is just IPv4.

RM> The other offers dynamic IPv4 and will switch to carrier grade NATv4
RM> _without_ IPv6. (IMHO an insane move ....)

Indeed an insane move. They may not have a choice regarding CGNAT, they may have run out of IPv4 address space, but offerring it without IPv6 is suicide.

RM> I am with the first one.
RM> Works nicely, is plenty fast for me, and very stable.

RM> Mobile companies do not offer IPv6.
RM> I could get a DSL line from #2 above and go to a small ISP.
RM> Again ... with 1/10th of the bandwidth.

Same her. There is XS4ALL. They offer very good service and IPV6 and IPv4 with static addresses. But as I mentioned before, due yo old copper in the street here, they can not offer compatative bandwith.

RM> I am happy with my current provider and an IPv6 tunnel.
RM> I know people from both providers ... and I talked to them about this.
RM> Management does not see it as an issue currently.
RM> And for 98% of the people they are right.

A wide spread problem among ISPs...

RM> Until the majority of customers does not see the benefit, and really
RM> attacks the ISPs this will not change.

Or until they run out of IPv4 address space...


Cheers, Michiel

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