= Сообщение: 4060 из 7440 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 16 Jan 17 22:26:34 Кому : Richard Menedetter 16 Jan 17 22:26:34 Тема : What happens if a power supply lowers the voltage by 90% FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+587d3ce6 На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:310/31+587d3086 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP850 ================================== ============================================================================== Hello Richard,
On Monday January 16 2017 21:40, you wrote to me:
MV>> But the fact that IPv4 space can be sold and that in order to do MV>> that, they have to retrieve address space from their "normal" MV>> customers indicates that adresses are scarse.
RM> Sure ... but not scarce enough. RM> UPC has switched to DS-Lite by default for their ISP customers.
UPC is a daughter of Liberty Global and switching to DS-Lite seems to be their global policy.
RM> They also started a MVNO recently, and they are handing out PUBLIC v4 RM> (only, no V6) addresses. Very few people need public v4 addresses on RM> their mobiles.
Here Ziggo ( also a daughter of Liberty Global) has entered into a partnership with Vodaphone. So they will be offering moble via the Vodaphone network. I do not know if they will offer IPv6, IPv4 or CGNAT.
RM>>> So for me the conclusio is, that people who do not care will RM>>> loose their public v4 address. But anybody can get single v4 RM>>> addresses for relatively cheap. I predict that v4 addresses will RM>>> stay cheap for "white male computer nerds" (as you put it)
MV>> I predict that eventually they will become worthless. When MV>> "everyone" has IPv6, there will no longer be a substantial demand MV>> for IPv4 and so the price will drop to zero.
RM> I agree ... the question is when will this point in time be ... RM> I really do not know ...
I do not know either. But as my fellow countryman and ex-Fidonetter Iljitsch van Beijnum already wrote in 2010: the transition will be ugly...
