= Сообщение: 4988 из 7402 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 09 Jan 18 14:45:28 Кому : Konstantin Kuzov 09 Jan 18 14:45:28 Тема : Another one! FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+5a54cf74 На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:5019/40+5a548341 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP850 ================================== ============================================================================== Hello Konstantin,
On Tuesday January 09 2018 11:48, you wrote to me:
KK>>> That's fido IPv6 relay for binkp and ifcico I made just for KK>>> lulz. MvdV>> So this is an IPV6 to IPv4 gateway.
KK> Actually, it isn't strictly IPv6 to IPv4. IPv6 to IPv6 also works.
Yes, that works too. I could reach IPv6 only node 280/5006 via 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0:2:280:5006
KK> And if destination IPv4 addresses are unresponsive IPv6 addresses also KK> will be tried.
That does not work. If I diasble listen 0.0.0.0 on my main machine I get "connection refused" when trying to connect to it via your gateway.
KK> So it is potentially can be used to reach IPv6-only KK> nodes if direct routing isn't working for some reason.
Hmmm...
MvdV>> IPv6 only nodes can use this to connect to IPv4 only nodes. MvdV>> Wow!.
KK> Or IPv4 only nodes could use such services to advertise IPv6 KK> reachability when don't want to mess with IPv6 tunnels
"Messing" with a tunnel was an interesting and lerningful experience. And a tunnel is much more flexible, it not only offers BINKP and IFCICO. It can be used for ALL services.
KK> or their retro-OS doesn't support IPv6 at all.
Dump it! ;-)
KK> Or just want a shiny f1d0-style address but can't have one...
Minor cosmetic issue...
KK> There are could be numerious hypotetical reasons for such services to KK> exist.
Perhaps...
But I think that with the coming of DS_Lite the reverse would be more useful. But harder to implement...
But then I think I'd prefer to use the services of an agent independant of Fidonet. Such as http://www.feste-ip.net/ They are still a SPOF, but most likely have no interest in acting as a SPOM.
MvdV>> I do not know what problem this is a solution for, AFAIK there MvdV>> are no truly IPv6 only connections yet. Every end user on the MvdV>> internet still has outgoing IPv4 capability and probably will MvdV>> have that for a very long time to come. But this certainly is MvdV>> an interesting experiment. Tell us more... Write a Fidonews MvdV>> article...
KK> As I have already said that experiment was just for fun.
OK. ;-)
KK> I've tested how recent linux kernels handle thousands of address KK> aliases on interfaces in memory constrained environment. I hadn't KK> intended and still don't intent to provide such service for anyone to KK> use in real life. As it's prone to abuse and centralization.
Indeed. Experience unfortunately shows that in Fidonet centralisation may lead to manipulation. :-(
KK> But as my address was noticed and mistaken as potential new IPv6 fido KK> member I clarified that it's not. ^_^
Good that this is cleared up.
KK>>> There are two IPv6 prefixes: KK>>> - "f1d0 style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:f1d0::/80 KK>>> - "hex style" - 2a04:52c0:101:201:fed0::/80
