= Сообщение: 4673 из 7440 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Tony Langdon 3:633/410 24 Jul 17 07:18:00 Кому : Michiel van der Vlist 24 Jul 17 07:18:00 Тема : Re: vanity mode engaged FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=3130.fido-ipv6@3:633/410+1dda5b4f На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+59746af0 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: ASCII ================================== Ответ: area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+5975d40e ============================================================================== -=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
TL> My long term dual stack future is assured at this stage,
MvV> For how long? 10 years? After that it probobly won't matter any more.
Given the low penetration of IPv6 here, 10 years is not out of the question (I'd rate it better than 50/50).
TL> my ISP has a good supply of IPv4 and is geek friendly.
MvV> Then let's hope it won't be the life time of your ISP that is the MvV> deciding factor. Here the small ones are almost all eaten by the big MvV> ones. And then it becomes less geek friendly.
There have been a couple of mergers over the years, but they've kept their identity within the bigger conglomerate. They can't merge much more, they're now owned by one of the larger ISPs.
MvV> My choice is limited. My present ISP has a quasy monopoly in my MvV> situation. They offer a good deal regarding price speed and content but MvV> they are not geek friendly. They are not geek hostile either though. MvV> ADSL is not really in option here with te 70+ year old copper in the MvV> street. It can not compete with the coax. And no fiber in sight...
Here, the situation is different. Few ISPs actually own access infrastructure, and with the new national network rolling out, pretty much all will be dependent on this network to reach their customers. This means that there's a lot of ISPs with reach, and who they will service comes down to marketing more than anything else (e.g. a local provider might not want to sell service to the other side of the country, even though it's physically possible).
TL> I suspect if they start moving customers to DS-Lite, they will still TL> have an option for those who want to keep their public IPv4 at a TL> modest extra cost.
MvV> That would be nice. In the longer run, you may run into the problem of MvV> hardware manufacturers gradually dropping support for IPv4. But then MvV> again, by the time that happens, it probably won't matter any more.
I'm getting 5 years out of my routers at least, should be right, I think. And there's going to be open source alternative firmware that WILL support IPv4.
MvV>> So... with every change to my system I ask "will it still work MvV>> if I loose my public IPv4 address"?
TL> That sounds like a good question.
MvV> I should rephrase that. s/if/when/ Because seeing the signs on the MvV> wall, I expect it will be a matter of "when", not "if".
Still a good question. :) Not one I have to consider for quite a while, though I have proven that as long as I have access to a public IPv4 from _somewhere_, a tunnel will work, and I'm sure that will hold even if I have to run my own NAT on the far end of the VPN.
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