= Сообщение: 4690 из 7440 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Tony Langdon 3:633/410 27 Jul 17 07:51:00 Кому : Michiel van der Vlist 27 Jul 17 07:51:00 Тема : Re: The future of IPv4 (was: vanity mode engaged) FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=3147.fido-ipv6@3:633/410+1dde75e4 На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+59786144 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: ASCII ================================== Ответ: area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+597c9f4f ============================================================================== -=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
MvV> My ISP does not offer that on consumer accounts. Static addresses are MvV> only offered om bussines accounts.
Most ISPs here don't offer static addresses for consumers either, but mine oes.
MvV>> I am old fashioned. I still use the aether when making HAM MvV>> contacts... :-)
MvV> For me the fun is running my own stuff at home. Noise pollution is stil MvV> bearable here. If I can no longer do HF from home, I will just stop MvV> doing HF. I don't use echolink or similar stuff either.
It was OK here, at least before I went VDSL. I haven't tried since. I don't get a lot of chance to play HF.
TL> Almost all of this is IPv4 only. My own remote base TL> actually has the potential to become IPv6 capable - I would need to TL> work on a suitable audio transport medium, probably web based. Control TL> wise, it's already IPv6 capable - I can simply SSH in to control it. TL> ;)
MvV> Good for you! ;-)
Yes, I wanted it to be easily extended.
MvV> Twenty five years ago I was the caretaker of the local 2 m repeater. MvV> PI3PYR. No internet connection. Everything over the air. ;-)
MvV> That was a long time ago. I have lost intetest in repereaters.
Repeaters in many cases have become access portals for the various networked modes. They've certainly changed, that's for sure.
MvV>> But of course there is my other hobby: Fidonet. Still plenty of MvV>> IPv4 only legacy software around.
TL> And legacy nodes - networked systes can be difficult to migrate. TL> Maybe the solution is to go IPv6 at the application level and have a TL> series of 6in4 tunnels along each route where there's an IPv4 only TL> endpoint.
MvV> Hmmm...
Just throwing ideas out there. :)
MvV> Indeed, there could be a lot more. Unfortunately many sysops do not MvV> seem to be interested at all. Many are still in denial. We don't need MvV> IPv6, evrything works without it...
Well, it's here, might as well make the most of it. I started playing with IPv6 back around 2000, compiling it into 2.2.x series Linux kernels by hand, then working around known bugs. And trying to find applications that supported IPv6 was an even bigger challenge back then.
MvV> Belgium is world leader in IPv6 adoption with 51%. It does not show in MvV> Fidonet. :-(
Yeah you guys should be leading the world.
TL> Can also simply restructure FTN networks so that there's good routing TL> available on dual stack nodes, so IPv6 only nodes can get a good feed TL> more easily.
MvV> There are no true IPv6 only nodes yet and there probably won't be any MvV> for a long time to come. All present IPv6 capable nodes can still make MvV> outgoing connects over IPv4. I think we already are past the tipping MvV> point. There are enough IPv6 capable nodes that can act as echomail MvV> hubs. Running an IPv6 node should be doable.
There's certainly a selection. We have coverage here, both myself and my NC have IPv6. :)
MvV> Frustrating indeed. :-(
Yep, this is not new stuff now, it should be pedestrian.
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