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От   : Björn Felten                     2:203/2            18 May 21 07:49:16
Кому : Ward Dossche                                        18 May 21 07:49:16
Тема : Nick and me and a program named D'Bridge
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WD> you also wrongly claimed experience with D'Bridge (which was debunked by
WD> the current author) ...

   Before you ask Nick again, he might have to recall this (from a long chain of email exchange). Since he denies every contact with me on the matter, I hope he'll not object to my showing this private email:



Ämne:
Re: D'Bridge code problem
Från:
"Nick Andre" <foxmulder4055@hotmail.com>
Datum:
Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:36:34 -0500
Till:
bfelten@telia.com
Dold kopia:


Hi,

>    Got it OK (good old BinkP...). And of course I understand that I'm not supposed to give anything away to anyone, unless you give me the permission to do so. I just hope you will not claim exclusive copyright for 70 years after you're dead (I probably die before you anyway -- I'm 57 and I get the feeling you're somewhat younger than me)? :)

LOL I'm exactly 30 years younger. :-)

>    Yeah, it sure is a mess. It seems that, in the end, the original author resorted to cut&paste programming, judging from the massive amount of redundant code (probably the main reason for our memory problem at the moment).

Yes, and I had a hell of a time even trying to design something so simple as an extra menu for users to configure their BinkP settings; the "dynamic window" code in the configuration menus (where you can type in multiple-lines of text) is VERY picky. If you can understand how it works; I'm sure you'll agree its very unstable.

>    I'll try to clean it up as much as possible, and also remove all the quirks and extras added in the old TP5.5 days, no longer needed with BP7, since it has most of those functions already built into the run time library.

Much appreciated. What kind of wine do you want me to ship you for christmas? :-)

WD>    If I understand you correctly, I can also remove all the registration related stuff (that amounts to a lot of waste of computer resources)?

I was actually going to do that myself but if that will make it easier for you to migrate to BP7, sure.

DBINIT and EDINIT (IIRC) make extensive checking of the license keyfile, actually most of the code that has that CRC table in the beginning declarations is pretty much for the anti-piracy features of D'Bridge.

I just remembered that the DB.EXE TSR that gets built by MDB.BAT also checks for a Fossil TSR to be loaded; if not, it calls X00.EXE to load one, before any of the mailer code gets ran. You'll also find extensive assembly stuff, mainly CRC checking, in all of the Zmodem related code; although upon inspection it should not be necessary to change it - its not making use of heap code or pointers or anything to my knowledge. Its the swap-to-DOS stuff elsewhere in the code that will keep your hands full I'm sure. :-P

There was actually several sections of code I removed that checked the license "kee" file quite frequently, and two systems could not connect if they shared the same serial number. If they did, both systems would crash quite horribly... on purpose. I think this program was the first to use an activation system like XP did. Pretty clever anti-piracy stuff for 1987.  :-)

WD>    If you don't hear from me in a week or so, you know the reason why -- I'm into deep sh*t, up to my neck, trying to get out. :)

Oh it took me a few weeks to even figure out where to begin, once the original author sent me the source code. He dumped everything into a ZIP file and basically said "good luck". I must warn you about the TurboPower routines - The ISAM stuff is used extensively for the nodelist compiler, queue system and costbase - Changing any of that stuff causes "interesting" side effects. :-P

WD>    Oh, I have no intention of breaking my 25 year long record of never having failed a software mission, so I'll eventually have this thing working, even if it's the last thing I do. :)

I totally agree as its my mission as well to have a functioning integrated BinkP system in place and maybe some other "goodies" if it can be done. I've been using this mailer for over 12 years and 12 years of using the same product kinda grows on you after awhile. I even got my girlfriend Laura involved; she handles the "tech support" side of things, personally answering all emails and questions asked by newcomers to DB. We're actually getting quite the little following going on now.

*Nick*



   And from another email:

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You are, of course, getting full credit in my release notes for db. :-) :-)

= = snip = =

   Now, tell me, who's got egg in his face?





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