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От   : Gerrit Kuehn                     2:240/12           07 Apr 20 22:07:12
Кому : Michiel van der Vlist                               07 Apr 20 22:07:12
Тема : Johnson and COVID-19
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Hello Michiel!

07 Apr 20 21:27, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

MvdV> Of course this is just a rough calculation based on simplifications
MvdV> and wild assumptions. But it will give an impression on the order
MvdV> of magnitude. It does not look good...

For Germany the numbers look better, I think. We could handle about 40000 new infections by day given the current hospilisation rate (at least for some time). We only see about 1/10 of that right now. Still, it would take us 3 years to reach 60% at that rate (and that would mean working in emergency mode, something you also could not do for a longer time) if there are no unreported cases. However, if the reported cases make only 10% of the real ones, this might look different.
It might also be possible that certain population groups have a much lower risk of being in need for being hospitalised than others (or than average). We need to find out.

GK>> We need large-scale tests for immunity to tell. These will hopefully
GK>> be available soon.

MvdV> Yes we do need test, especially tests that tell us how many
MvdV> infections have been below the radar and how many are already
MvdV> immune.

Exactly. And that was the original design flaw of the British way: There was (and still is) no data basis to properly estimate if it is feasible to go that way without risking health systems to implode.

GK>> Hardly possible, either (depending on what "semi" might actually be).

MvdV> Indeed hardly possible. Hoping the vaccin will be available before
MvdV> that....

Not my strong suit, but my gut feeling would be: not before summer 2021.


Regards,
Gerrit

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