= Сообщение: 9521 из 12490 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : Gerrit Kuehn 2:240/12 08 Apr 20 15:57:12 Кому : Michiel van der Vlist 08 Apr 20 15:57:12 Тема : Johnson and COVID-19 FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:240/12+5e37eda3 На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/5555+5e8db0d0 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: LATIN1 ================================= Ответ: area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/5555+5e8efa0f ============================================================================== Hello Michiel!
08 Apr 20 12:59, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:
MvdV> There is a significant difference between Germany and The MvdV> Netherlands, you have far greater IC capacity. We have 7 IC beds MvdV> per 100.000 inhabitants, you have 34.
Yes, I was also quite amazed when I learned that other countries have significantly lower numbers in IC capabilities. Especially when considering that German healthcare has been under severe budget cuts for at least two decades.
MvdV> We ARE in emergency mode. IC capacity has been scaled up a factor MvdV> two by canabalising beds, staff and equipment meant for other non MvdV> urgent care like hip surgery and such. IC wards look like we are at MvdV> war.
MvdV> About 100 Dutch IC patients were moved to Germany.
Right now we have plenty of "spare" IC beds, I think. However, they're all still very afraid we might need them soon.
MvdV> Indeed, we are just guessing. We need data. But gathering data MvdV> takes time...
We have a team researching in one of the first big cluster areas we had, with already quite some interesting first results coming back.
MvdV> Restaurants and barber shops are closed. All events are cancelled.
No barbers for 1 year or more? Does that sound feasible to you?
MvdV> But contrary to you guys, we may go out in the open to do shopping MvdV> or just take a walk. Under the 1.5 meter distance condition. And MvdV> wash hands every ten minutes...
Sorry? I can go out any time and do pretty much whatever I like as long as the 1.5m distance is kept. Most shops, restaurants and so on are closed, though. But as I live in a village that had none of these to close down, there is not much of a difference. :) My kids and my wife are at home, but meanwhile that's also as planned as the official school holidays are on. One of the interesting questions for us will be if school will start again after Easter holidays, or if they all will have to stay home.
MvdV> I am a bit more optimistic. Just a gut feeling too, but I have MvdV> reasonable hope we will have something usable by Xmas.
