= Сообщение: 8770 из 12491 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : Henri Derksen 2:280/1208 15 Jun 19 02:58:00 Кому : Michiel van der Vlist 15 Jun 19 02:58:00 Тема : Pvt node with a CM flag, but without connect info. FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/1208@FidoNet+53027f72 На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/5555+5d038aa9 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: ASCII ================================== Ответ: area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/5555+5d06c485 ============================================================================== Hello Michiel,
MvdV>>> I don't see why anyone would want to run a zoo on a mobile MvdV>>> platform.
HD>> Look at the Ark of Noach, it is a big ship with all kind of animals HD>> ;-).
10 days ago it was moored in the harbor of Wageningen.nl at the river Rhine. We saw it laying there when we arrived there with two historical inland ships.
MvdV> Where can I see this great attraction?
Try Wageningen, or read the website. It is a Dutch ship build on an inland barge, about 76 m long, 11,45 m. wide, about 2,50 m. depth, and about 8 m. high. It is the second one, they first had a smaller one.
HD>>>> people who only live mobile, i.e. in a motorhome or ship and HD>>>> donot have a fixed home of wood and/or stone at land,
MvdV>>> That answers the question of "who". Not "why".
HD>> Also why, because they donot have a fixed connection. HD>> I.e. POTS, Central Antenna Cable and Fibre are impossible.
MvdV> That answers the question of what they can not. Not the question of why MvdV> they want it in the first place.
Of course for the same reason people ashore would want to run their own servers.
HD>>>> which I would liked to, but it seems to difficult to realy HD>>>> realise that at my age, at first financially ;-(.
MvdV>>> So for you it is a castle in the air. Forget it.
HD>> At first site yes, but you never know. It could be suddenly still HD>> possible. You never know. May be tomorrow I find a woman living on a HD>> ship, and we could have a click? Or a large sum of money is comming to HD>> my side from somewhere ;-).
MvdV> Yeah, and pigs will fly and I will be an astronaut after all...
That chances are far more away, then the ones I mentioned.
MvdV>>>>> It is not practical. Better hire space at a hosting provider. MvdV>>>>> Much cheaper and far nore stable. HD>>>> So I donot have to run a FidoNet station at home? MvdV>>> It is not my cup of tea, for me the kick is running the server MvdV>>> in my own home on my own hardware. There are sysops however who MvdV>>> hire space (physical or virtual) in a data center and run their MvdV>>> Fidonet system from there. HD>> The same here.
MvdV> But if running a Fidonet node in a data centre is what you can have and MvdV> running it on your ship while on the move is what you can not have, what MvdV> will you choose?
Of course it is possible to get a mobile node with a fixed IPv4 adres, only the price for it may be very expensive, i.e. for buying an IP-adress or such, or install a tube (tunnel) 4 to 6. By cell phone could also be possible. That has a fixed phonenumber.
MvdV> A close member of my family always wanted the dush that was not om the MvdV> menu. From the 1000 on the list, it wanted # 1001 that was not MvdV> avaialble. It ended up with nothing. No sole mate, no children, no job. MvdV> Nothing. People who always want the impossible, instead of make do with MvdV> what they can have, end up empty handed.
That are your words. I am not trying to get the impossible. I just donot give up too soon.
MvdV>>>>> Yes, IPv6 has provisons for that. HD>>>> So in that case it is interesting for mobile users.
MvdV>>> May be. I haven't heard much about it as yet...
Does not show, it is not possible.
HD>> I know Kees and you do have a fixed part at the IPv6 number that ends HD>> with the FidoNet Node number, right?
MvdV> We have, and we are not the only ones. Look in the list of IPv6 nodes MvdV> for "f" in the "remarks" colum.
Who says that is not possible with mobile devices?
MvdV> But it has nothing to do with mobile.
We already know IPv4 is hardly possible at mobile devices, but IPv6 ?
MvdV> For a server you need a stable routable public IP address. I have not MvdV> yet found a way to get one on a mobile connection. So forget it.
A tunnel, IPv6 adress, or mobile Phone Number could be a solution for that. The only question is, does somebody already tested it successfully?
Henri.
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