= Сообщение: 8786 из 12491 ====================================== ENET.SYSOP = От : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 24 Jun 19 01:29:47 Кому : Henri Derksen 24 Jun 19 01:29:47 Тема : Pvt node with a CM flag, but without connect info. FGHI : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/5555+5d100b6d На : area://ENET.SYSOP?msgid=2:280/1208@FidoNet+5493552f = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP850 ================================== ============================================================================== Hello Henri,
On Tuesday June 18 2019 20:12, you wrote to me:
MvdV>> People living a nomadic life on a ship are not the same people MvdV>> as people with a fixed residence.
HD> The basic needs are the same for every one, HD> only the source may differ, or the amounts of it.
Running a server is not a basic need. The vast majority of people on the Internet gets along just fine with client only apps.
MvdV>> You are not in that position.
HD> Not now any more, but I have family and many friens who are,
Your case would be much more convincing if it came fom someone who actually lives on a vessel and has no other residence and wanted to run a server...
HD>>> Of course it is possible to get a mobile node with a fixed IPv4 HD>>> adres, only the price for it may be very expensive,
MvdV>> If the price is beyond affordability, then it is impossible in MvdV>> practice.
HD> For me yes. HD> But for others who can spend more money it could be possible.
Or not.
HD>>> Who says that is not possible with mobile devices?
MvdV>> As it is, you can not have an IPv6 address from a Dutch mobile MvdV>> provider.
HD> That's a big omission, and that will slow down the IPv4 to IPv6 HD> migration.
Yes. It is one of those many things that are beyond my sphere of influence.
HD>>> We already know IPv4 is hardly possible at mobile devices, HD>>> but IPv6 ?
MvdV>> AFAIK, not yet.
HD> Then ask for one.
Me? Oh, no, no, no. Not me. I am not the one wanting to run servers on a mobile platform.
HD> You are the IPv6 promotor and also traveling by car and home on wheels HD> for hollyday's and then fidonetting with a Point system. If you had a HD> fixed IPv4 or fixed IPv6 adress, you could run a mobile Node.
I have no desire, disposition. aspiration, inclination, tendency, propensity, proclivity, need or aptitude to run a mobile node while on the move with my camper caravan. The point setup works just fine.
MvdV>>>> For a server you need a stable routable public IP address. I MvdV>>>> I have not yet found a way to get one on a mobile connection. MvdV>>>> So forget it.
HD> So ask you provider(s). If there is no demand, they will not start it.
I am not the one with the demand. I have none. YOU are the one claiming there is a demand. So YOU do the leg work.
HD>>> A tunnel, IPv6 adress, or mobile Phone Number could be a solution HD>>> for that. The only question is, does somebody already tested it HD>>> successfully?
MvdV>> Not that I know of. I am sure that if someone will manage to run MvdV>> a long time stable fully fledged Fidonet node on a mobile MvdV>> connection, we will hear about it.
HD> I hope so.
Instead of hoping, why don't you take the lead? Fire up a mobile node and demonstrate that a stable and reliable service is possible. Maybe others will follow.
