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От   : Ward Dossche                     2:292/854          22 Jul 22 09:02:52
Кому : Vincent Coen                                        22 Jul 22 09:02:52
Тема : Re: The cruiser "Moskva"
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Vince,
 
VC> Do not think the Russians would let that get in their way :(
 
Probably not but I'd doubt if it carries any really secretive things. I find it an ugly design...
 
VC> They make up stuff as they go along - just look at the poor sods they
VC> have arrested with all the made up charges etc.
 
The thing that I wonder about is, is the general Russian population really that stupid they believe the rethoric or is the propaganda that powerful even in times of modern technology?
 
I still remember my stay in St.Petersburg (I will never forget those 2 weeks) when I went for a walk, went to the musea etc ... that when you look at people's faces in the street, they looked away, staring into the void trying to avoid "being noticed" ... I think still a remainder from communism.
 
As a result of the tsaristic rule Russians never were free, they always were oppressed. And when the communists took over it wasn't liberation but just a change to another style of opression. Then when glasnost and perestrojka happened they had no clue how to deal with it and that left the playing field open for a cancer in human form such as Putin.
 
And I don't even think Putin is the problem, but the machinery of power withing the Kremlin.
 
As for the wreck of the Moskva, Ukraine has already declared it a site of Ukrainian cultural heritage.
 
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