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От   : Ward Dossche                     2:292/854          21 Dec 22 11:15:05
Кому : Andrew Kolchoogin                                   21 Dec 22 11:15:05
Тема : Re: Who presses the button ?
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Andrew,
 
AK> Answer is too simple: they don't, in their opinion.
 
AK> It is a very dangerous psychologic catch used now by militarians: there
AK> is _much_ easier to kill a human when you see it on a monitor screen
AK> rather than "eye-to-eye" *even* if he/she stays one meter far from you.
AK> According to psychologists' researches, only near 10% of people are able
AK> to shoot their vis-a-vis while more than 80% can put the cursor to the
AK> pictogram using joystick and press the "Fire" button on it _even_ when
AK> they will know that they will kill real human.
 
That is probably correct.
 
My father, who passed away in 2018 at 97, fought real-life "live" Nazis in WW2. In hand-to-hand combat he killed someone with a knife ... he never came to terms with it. It haunted him till his dying day.
 
AK> As such, I completely reject both European and Ukrainian position about
AK> "no fire on Russian territory". No fire - no war. No war - no worries.
 
I think that Ukraine should be admitted as a NATO-member immediately, that would put the whole event in its correct perspective.
 
But NATO was started with the idea of just creating a deterent never to see action. Now when there would come a situation where combat action is real and NATO-troops actually are under fire, all the big mouthers shut up and say they don't want an escallation.
 
If NATO were to establish itself in Ukraine, this war would be over in less than a week when Putin would be faced with article-5 of the North Atlantic treaty.
 
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