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От   : Dan Clough                       1:123/115          12 Mar 22 08:54:00
Кому : Shaun Buzza                                         12 Mar 22 08:54:00
Тема : Re: 2022 FTSC Standing Member Election - Votes Received
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-=> Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-

DC>  SB> There is a reason that real-world politics count abstentions
DC>  SB> along with yes and no votes. It has to be a majority vote; the
DC>  SB> majority of *all* votes, including abstentions, must be either
DC>  SB> yes or no.

DC> This is not correct, at least for elections that I'm familiar with,
DC> in the USA.  We count *ONLY* YES votes.  You do not need a majority
DC> of all votes, you simply need more YES votes than the number of YES
DC> votes that your opponent gets.  That's it.  There are no NO votes, and
DC> there are millions of abstentions, which just means.... nothing.

SB> Um, wouldn't a vote for your opponent automatically be a vote
SB> against you, or a 'no'? Just sayin...

Well, in effect it would be, sort of.  But, that wasn't the point.  I
was debating your claim that in real-world politics, "no" votes and
abstentions are counted.  They are not, because there *ARE* no "no"
votes.  When I look at my election ballot, I can choose to vote for
*ONE* candidate, which is a "yes" vote.  There is no choice to pencil in
for a "no" vote.  It is NOT a majority vote to win an election.  It is
simply a matter of getting more YES votes than your opponent(s).  Which
is what I said there above...

SB> Unfortunately, the FTSC election has already stepped out of the
SB> realm of the presidential election you're familiar with/referring
SB> to. There are three candidates, and any combination of the three
SB> could be voted in. This would be more akin to voting in members
SB> of a city council, wouldn't it? And in that case, it is indeed a
SB> majority decision, at least in the small part of the world I call
SB> home.

Yes, the FTSC example is more like a city council thing.  The point is
that you don't need a majority (of all the people voting) to get in, you
simply need more YES votes than NO votes.  There is a difference.



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