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От   : Michiel van der Vlist            2:280/5555         28 Mar 19 00:45:00
Кому : Joacim Melin                                        28 Mar 19 00:45:00
Тема : IPv6
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Hello Joacim,

On Tuesday March 26 2019 19:38, you wrote to me:

JM> I'd like to ask a question, without any preconceived opinions or
JM> otherwise: move Fidonet forward... where?

Why do you think I have the answer? It is not me that insists on radical changes.

JM> I mean, the network as such isn't exactly growing,

And neither is the local fish club, the amateur stage club and the HAM community. Things come and go.

JM> the technology is more or less based on the same stuff as 10-20 years
JM> ago (which is fine by me)

I would not mind if those proudly advertising that they still use 25+ year old stuff would change their mind. I would not mind a 32 bits version of Allfix. I would not mind some changes to Golded that make it easier to write Cyrillics. And I would like to see more IPv6 capable nodes. Other than that... Most is fine as it is...

JM> the arguing and the politics are still the same as always.

It was pretty quit in here until a couple of returnees came barging in demanding change...

JM> I say Fidonet isn't going anywhere. it will remain the same until the
JM> last person leaving shuts off the light.

That is what happens when old people run an antiquated show. I have no problem with it.

JM> Not to say that things can't *improve*, such as removing certain
JM> people in power who abuse that power

Who will decide who may stay and who has to go? The inquisition? And then? Hire an elimination squad?

JM>  or maybe merge all zones into one since it's pretty fucking
JM> silly to have all these zones,

You think you are the first with that idea? Go find my Fidonews articles. I wrote two articles about removing a level of hierarchy. Too lazy to look it up for you.

JM> networks and whatnot as if Fidonet will suddenly grow to 20000 BBS:es
JM> again.   If Fidonet is to stand a fighting chance to survive it needs
JM> to be a friendlier place, a more accessible place. Have a look at how
JM> easy you can join FSXNet, how welcoming that network is and how
JM> friendly the atmosphere there are...

If FSXnet is so great, why are you here?

JM> and compare it to this network who yells to every newcomer to get off
JM> it's lawn.

You come storming in out of nowhere and DEMAND that we old farts who have been here for over a quarter of a century CHANGE so that Fidonet becomes an alternet for FSXnet? And you are surprised that we are not all that enthousiastic? How about storming into the Den of a Harley club and demand that they stop drinking beer, replace the bikes by famlily cars and start sipping wine...

JM> So maybe I failed to not have opinions but I care deeply about this
JM> stuff.

JM> And no - I will not discuss this in Fidonews, which is the dung heap
JM> of Fidonet.

I am not going to continue to discuss it here, it is not a matter that desires interaction between the Fidonet community and the FTSC.


Cheers, Michiel

--- Fmail, Binkd, Golded
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