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От   : Alexey Vissarionov               2:5020/545         28 Mar 17 00:30:00
Кому : Fred Riccio                                         28 Mar 17 00:30:00
Тема : Proposed changes: FTS-5001.006
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Good ${greeting_time}, Fred!

27 Mar 2017 09:07:54, you wrote to All:

FR> Also for discussion... IEM vs EMA flags. Are they the same?

EMA should be replaced with IEM.

FR> Additions/Changes are marked with ">" in column 1.

`diff -burN` could be much better...

FR> 5.5. Gateway Flag

Deprecated.

FR>   Daylight saving time

The common solution is to work at least two hours a day, one for ZMH and other for ZMH+DST. Proved by R50 for over 20 years, until DST was cancelled here.

FR> 5.8. ISDN Capability Flags

Do anyone still use it?

FR> 5.9. Internet Capabilities
FR>     <flag>[:<internet address>][:<port>]
FR>   Where <internet address> is:
FR>     * a fully qualified domain name (FQDN), or
FR>     * an IPv6 address encased in square brackets, or
FR>     * an IPv4 address in dotted-quad format, or
FR>     * an email address,

Wrong.

Must be <flag>[:<internet address>] where internet address is
<email | <fqdn | ipv4 | ipv6>[:<port>]>

FR>   This method is not to be used to signal that a system is IPV4 and
FR>   IPv6 capable. Additional IPv6 capability should be advertised by
FR>   adding an AAAA record to an already listed host name.

Wrong.

INA:192.0.2.123,INA:[2001:db8:f1d0::1234],IBN is a legal set of flags.

FR>    IP    (none)  Mostly used during the introduction of IP capable
FR>                  systems to the nodelist, is similar to the INA flag
FR>                  but may or may not specify an Internet address.
FR>                  Both usages are deprecated in favour of INA.

Deprecated, should be removed.

FR>    IFT       21  FTP (RFC-0959); Note there is currently no widely
FR>                  accepted authentication scheme for FTP transfers by
FR>                  Fidonet mailers.

Deprecated: no common method for delivering direct netmail to such nodes.

FR>    ITN       23  Telnet connection using FTS-1 or any other protocol
FR>                  designed for classic POTS and modem.
FR>    IVM     3141  Vmodem connection using FTS-1 or any other protocol
FR>                  designed for classic POTS and modem.

Deprecated by IFC.

FR>    IEM    Indicates an unspecified mail tunnelling method (old
FR>           usage, similar to IP), or sets the default email
FR>           address for other flags (similar to INA)

Should be changed to "INA-style" only.

FR>    ITX    TransX encoding for email tunnelling with receipts
FR>           enabled.

Is there some common method for delivering direct netmail to such nodes?
Hereafter "common" implies at least "free cross-platform software".

FR>    ISE    SEAT protocol for Email tunnelling with receipts.
FR>           enabled; should always be accompanied by IUC and/or IMI.

Is there some common method for delivering direct netmail to such nodes?

>>  EVY    Voyager-compatible

Is there some common method for delivering direct netmail to such nodes?

>>  EMA    Everything not defined by the aforementioned individual flags

So, how should one deliver direct netmail to such nodes?

FR>   PING
FR>   ----

FR>     Specified as exactly "PING" with no arguments.  Nodes flying this
FR>     flag will adhere to the following functionality:

FR>     1) PING-function:

FR>     If a message destined to "PING" arrives at its final destination
FR>     and this final destination flies the "PING"-flag, then the
FR>     receiving node will bounce the message back to the original sender
FR>     clearly quoting all the original via-lines.

s/clearly/safely/

FR>     WARNING: the sender's name (in either direction) must *NEVER* be
FR>     "PING".

Wrong: if the sender's name is also "PING", the message _must_ be deleted without notice.

FR> 6. User flags
FR> -------------

FR>   It is impossible to document all user flags in use.  The FTSC makes
FR>   no attempt at it.  This document lists those flags which got at
FR>   least some kind of official sanction or were deemed of technical
FR>   interest by FTSC.

Here should be a clear notice that user flags _may_ contain anything except "standard" flags, and all unknown flags _must_ be passed through without any changes.

That means ,U,ENC,BEER is ok.

FR>   SDS    Software Distribution System
FR>   SMH    Secure Mail Hub

Both are deprecated.

FR>   CDP    This node will accept points auto-created by the CD-point
FR>          software.

Is there any common implementation?


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