= Сообщение: 233 из 7402 ============================================== IPV6 = От : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 22 Dec 13 23:48:32 Кому : Markus Reschke 22 Dec 13 23:48:32 Тема : Kabel Deutschland & IPv6 FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+52b77108 На : area://IPV6?msgid=2:240/1661+52ada6ac = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP850 ================================== Ответ: area://IPV6?msgid=2:240/1661+52b83125 ============================================================================== Hello Markus,
On Saturday December 21 2013 13:43, you wrote to me:
MR>>> Yes, outgoing IPv4 traffic (and the related traffic back to the MR>>> user) works fine with CGN.
MvdV>> Not all of it. http and binkp will be no problem, but some MvdV>> applications do not work well from behind double NAT. E.g. some MvdV>> voip protocols.
MR> That's right! ISPs running any form of NAT shouldn't be allowed to MR> call their product internet access. Calling it web access would be MR> correct, IMHO.
Indeed. But as most consumers will never know the difference as they do not run servers, but only run client applications, like web browsing an e-mail, I am afraid the ISPs will get away with it... :-(
OTOH, if they do offer fully fledged internet access over native IPv6, they may call THAT part internet access...
MR> Fax will stay alive for a very long time in Germany. The reason for MR> that is a legal constraint. A qualified fax sending report is an MR> evidence that you sent a letter to the addressee.
Until the some clever legal eagle convinces a court that since the advent of FAX emulation via FAX modem and PC, forging such a sending report is as easy as manipulating any text file...
Plus that in the end, all that matters is if one can convince the court. At least that is how it works here in The Netherlands. My classic FAX broke down in 1995. I did not replace it and never missed it.
MR> There's nothing similar for emails. Yes, there is DE-Mail but it's MR> complete BS, cumbersome, expensive and discriminates users against MR> classic mail.
Similar arguments applied to the telegramme and telix service. Both are gone...
Anyway, contrary to ISDN, FAX is not a Fidonet issue. ISDN was a great step for Fidonet. But it is history. Fido over IP has obsoleted ISDN.
Returning to the topic: what will Kabel Deutschland do with existing customers? Will they keer there IPv4 address and will only new customers get a RFC 1918 or RFC 6598 address?
