MvV>> Ah, that is good. Here the best they can do is disable the MvV>> router function in the CPE they give you. Then you can use your MvV>> own router, but then you are IPv4 only. There is an EU law in MvV>> the making that will compell ISPs to allow customers to buy MvV>> their own modem/routers but at this time it is unclear how that MvV>> will evolve. In Germany a law against "Zwangsrouter" has been in MvV>> effect for some time now. About a year IIRC. It seems to work.
TL> Interesting. Here, different ISPs do different things.
Hmm.. I see that I should have been more specific than "they" in the 2nd sentence of the quote above.
I was talking about my ISP. Here there is just one ISP on the cable. That is the "they" I meant above. But there also is xDSL available on the old copper from the POTS era. On the old POTS copper one has a choice of about a dozen ISPs. Albeit at lower speed...
TL> The supplied router is often tweaked specifically for an ISP, TL> sometimes with customised (often "brain dead") firmware, but I am yet TL> to encounter a case where I couldn't substitute a third party router. TL> When I was on cable (pre-2010), the modem was only a bridge, so I TL> could add my own router to it (which in those days was a customised TL> Linux box :) ).
My first cable modem was a Motorola Surfboard. Indeeed just a bridge after which I had my own router. The modem was on loan from the ISP, the router was my own. Now "they" only have modems with a build in router. They do not sell them, you get them on loan.
TL> My own ISP does sell routers, but you're not compelled to use their TL> offerings. If you buy from them, the router comes configured so it TL> will "just work", and they guarantee all of the gear they sell is IPv6 TL> capable. But there's nothing stopping you from using anything else if TL> you prefer.
Most xDSL providers have the same or a similar policy. Some of them even offer full stack native IPv6.
The reason I stay with the cable is that they have an attractive "all in one" offer. TV + Telephone + internet. With much more bandwith than xDSL.
No fiber in this area... And no IPv6 on any of the mobile providers...
