= Сообщение: 6160 из 7402 ============================================= IPV6 = От : Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 04 Oct 19 21:44:01 Кому : Dan Clough 04 Oct 19 21:44:01 Тема : List of IPv6 nodes FGHI : area://IPV6?msgid=2:280/5555+5d97a60a На : area://IPV6?msgid=409.fido_ipv6@1:123/115+21fc8b99 = Кодировка сообщения определена как: CP850 ================================== ============================================================================== Hello Dan,
On Friday October 04 2019 08:56, you wrote to me:
MvV>> Sad indeed.
DC> I don't find it "sad", just "reality".
So let's call it the "sad reality".
DC> I have no option to get/use IPv6 here where I live. It's not offered DC> by any ISP that I know of.
When there is a want, there is a way. There is an option.
1) As others have mentioned you could use a tunnel. For you he.net may be the best choice. They offer 6in4 tunnels as a free service.
2) If your ISP does not offer IPv6 yet, you should make noise.
MvV>> I have come across sysops who's provider offers IPv6 but they MvV>> refuse to make use of it. IPv6 is too fat and too complicated MvV>> and it is not needed they say. :(
DC> Well, it's not actually *needed*, is it? Fidonet is working just DC> fine here on IPv4, just as it always has.
It isn't /needed/ yet, but it will be needed in the foreseeable future. But then again, Fidonet itself is not "needed". Fidonet ios a hobby created by pioneers. Since when are pioneers stopped by "lack of perceived need"? What happened to that pioneer spirit?
DC> Most people (including me) don't care.
That is the sad part. That uncle Joe does not care does not matter. That Fidoenet sysops - supposedly pioneers - don't care is sad.
DC> When the v4's run out, things will be different.
The IPv4 addresses HAVE run out. Years ago.
Projected RIR Address Pool Exhaustion Dates:
RIR Exhaustion Date Remaining Addresses in RIR Pool (/8s) APNIC: 19-Apr-2011 0.1881 RIPE NCC:14-Sep-2012 0.0575 LACNIC: 10-Jun-2014 0.0231 ARIN: 24 Sep-2015 0.0002 AFRINIC: 20-Feb-2020 0.2240
The difference with oil is that the numbers are not burned. Whatever is there remains usable. But there is no way one get get more of them.
DC> For now..... it's not needed.
"We don't need a telephone system, we have an excellent system of messenger boys".
